Shouldn’t we be pleased as Bellamy joins Cardiff?

Bellamy: Certainly a talking point!

I for one am thrilled.  As a taxpayer in the UK I feed in lots of my income to Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs – which means that, given Cardiff City’s status as a major debtor to the said same organisation, I’m contributing to £90,000 a week striker Craig Bellamy being able to play in the Championship whilst they continue to strengthen their squad and hold on to their players.

Bitter?  Certainly a little.  I wouldn’t join in the vitriol to be directed towards the club – a lot of people seem to be taking that road.  It’s the authorities supposedly in charge of the league that deserve scrutiny for allowing this ridiculous merry-go-round to continue.  Just as when Leicester City wiped away their debts through Administration, they’re allowing Cardiff to stick two fingers up at the clubs who pay their way throughout the leagues.

The moral highground is all well and good (although perhaps a tricky stance for us to claim after Mark Arthur’s recent increasingly laughable plays for Peter Whittingham and Darren Pratley) but it becomes apparent that under the current ways of working in the football league, cheating does prosper – and part of me can’t help but admire Cardiff’s brass neck in pushing the flimsy rules to stretching point.

Who wouldn’t want a player of Craig Bellamy’s capability in our league – he’d walk into most Premier League teams let alone Championship ones, and if the powers-that-be are happy to sit by and let a club with debts outstanding profit from the situation, then it is they that deserve our outrage.  Although I am enjoying the activities of the Motherwell chairman in response to today’s news.

On a sensible not though it’s a sad state of affairs – a club with one transfer embargo recently lifted and another likely in the future – have been able to add the likes of Jason Koumas, Tom Heaton, Danny Drinkwater, Seyi Olofinyana, Martin John and Craig Bellamy to their ranks – and still talk of adding more – defies belief.

I’ll admit that’s tinged with jealousy as our manouvring and posturing supposedly with cash to spend has yielded a much smaller haul of – um – Ryan Bertrand on loan (a signing I’m most happy with!) and, if we’re scraping the barrel, Raddy on a permanent move right at the start of the summer.  It’s mighty frustrating, and certainly doesn’t feel like much of a level playing field – although our own methods of securing signings does contribute to our lack of movement, that’s for sure.

For all that I do prefer that – Mark Arthur’s strange behaviour recently aside – we generally conduct our business in a fair fashion.  I wouldn’t want to be bending rules and flaunting debts, and I suppose having a rich owner gives us that luxury.  However, we’ve paid a heavy price over the last few seasons for the sins of our fathers – and it’s frustrating watching other clubs seemingly able to wantonly get away with fiscal mismanagement without any comeback.

If Peter Whittingham was stalling on his Cardiff future based on them showing some ambition then well, they’re certainly showing that I’d say.  How Forest go from here remains to be seen, but my gosh we could use some happy transfer news couldn’t we?  Maybe we should stop paying taxes and put the cash towards some better offers for our targets…

20 Responses

  1. There is only one thing to do.

    Bid £5m for Whittingham and just not bother paying it.

  2. Absolutely unbelievable. Whilst this type of thing goes on is there any wonder that many see football as morally bankrupt, forgive the obvious pun.
    As a Red’s fan I don’t demand that we spend big money but is it too much to expect a signing/two. Whatever happened to the days when we brought players @ the beginning of their career for reasonable fees- e.g Pearce/Webb. We don’t neccessarily have to bring in players like Pratley/Wittingham, just use your imagination Forest & utilise your so called scouting network… Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself but come on sort it out!!!

  3. It cant be right for Bellamy to join Cardiff after their financial mismanagement. Of course he is a quality player and will give them a huge boost,, I don’t blame Bellamy he is playing for his home town club and the team he supports, but it just aint right. Just as Leicester avoiding administration wasn’t right.
    I am glad Forest don’t get involved in these type of things.
    Regarding transfers in ( or lack of them) Forest fans should not attack Nigel Doughty for managing the finances correctly.
    However I cant understand why we are so focused and seem almost besotted with two players- in Whittingham and Pratley.
    Yes they have been earmarked as good acquisitions, but surely there are other players who we should be targeting to buy. For whatever reason these two targets have not joined us so come on Forest look to others who can help us win promotion.

  4. Cardiff shouldn’t be allowed to sign players before they pay their Creditors, like Motherwell!

    I am totally disgusted by this whole situation!

  5. Just watched the Motherwell chairman give Cardiff both barrels on sky sports good effort my son.It is a complete joke Bellamy will run riot in this division.

    And Wittinghams out the picture now no chance he will sign for us.Sit back and watch as the AP continues to flunder and we suffer for it incompetents is what they are.

    U reds

  6. It is absolutely ridiculous. I’m not entirely sure what went on at clubs like Luton and Chester, but they were completely ripped apart. Chester screwed up and chucked out of football altogether and Luton just deducted points time and time again and ended up with 3 successive relegations i think. And now all of a sudden it is alright to have no money and be in serious debt like Portsmouth and Cardiff. And not only that, Cardiff are allowed to get a player with 90,000 a week wages and Manchester City are helping them pay his wages.

    Well Forest all you need to do is get Shaun Wright-Phillips and Man City will pay his wages for us. Sounds like a good deal to me.

    If we don’t sign a decent player before the end of the transfer window, i will be absolutely furious. It’s simple, just buy a player for millions of pounds and we won’t have to pay a single penny of it seeing as a Welsh club who shouldn’t even be in the English football league are getting away with it. I really hope Motherwell get their money and put Cardiff in even more debt, meaning they have to sell Whittingham to us.

  7. Really bad news for us, Bellamy is a quality player. It seems like they are wanting to put off paying there depts by crook or by hook till next season, hopeing to get promoted. If they do all will be well for them, if they dont, they are fucked… i hope its the latter. They are cheating other teams out of there money and getting away with it.

  8. I guess the arrival of Bellamy will make Cardiff favourites for promotion and will make Whittingham now want to stay there.

    It seems a real coup for them but surely the football authorities should be forcing Cardiff to cough up the money they owe Motherwell and preventing them from signing players until they do so?

  9. Heard on the radio today that they won’t be paying a penny of his wages, but even so I agree.

    As big a talent as he is tho (he’ll walk this league) I’m not that bothered to be honest, his temperament + big wage + big ego can cause as much damage at Cardiff as his talent can cause good, and the likes of Whittingham are just as likely to fall out with him n want to leave as they are stay.

    The answer Dave Jones gave today on the radio when asked “….Craig demands a lot of the other players around him, how will he fit in?” was along the lines of “The other players need to adapt and raise their game”. So thanks for the past few years work lads, now we’re importing a big star ur all gunna hav to work ur arses off to make him look good and change ur style to fit him. Somehow I don’t think everyones gunna be too pleased at doing that.

    We’ll see how it pans out, but I think it’ll come back to haunt em.

  10. Whittingham and Pratley obviously don’t want to come to Forest, so screw ’em I say!!! We should be putting our efforts into players that do want to play for us.
    Surely with the new 25 man squad rule, there are numerous Premiership players that need to play regular football that just don’t quite make the grade at their current clubs. Why don’t we pursue some of them. City are having a big clear out and Forest are interested in some loan players (seeing as we don’t actually buy anyone anymore!).

    Souldn’t our Transfer Committee be called the Loan Signing Committee???? (actually thats a completely different rant).

    You Reeeeddddssss!!!

    • i think pratly has signalled his desire to come by not signing a new contract, its his club that are being stubbord barstewards, i believe the same canbe said for wittingham too.

  11. your all BITTER ! Cardiff are working there way though the debts and paying them off unfortunately its not possible to pay them all off in one go, but they are being paid which is better than the admin route and paying 5p in the pound like some clubs eg swansea who have short memories ?? oh and the tax man has been paid hence the reason we can sign loan players . And yes motherwell should have been paid gethin jenkins said 7 days .

    • bitter? yes. mainly due to the fact that your owners have gotten away with running your club into financial ruin. not only gotten away with it, but seem to be allowed to profit from it with loan signings of the class of bellamy. cardiff are a disgrace, maybe we should sign rooney for 60 mil, and not bother paying untill we get to the top flight,attract more talent to take us to the summit again, then think about slowly, slowly paying money back…. when we can be arsed of course.

      • Actually its are old owners who run the debt up, thing is we have NEW owners and tg is clearing the mess up but it all takes time which has got to be better than the leeds £35m and some other clubs way of writing off the debt and starting again, atleast creditors will get paid !

        • Perhaps if the debts were paid FIRST people might be less critical, or perhaps if the club even bothered to respond to the likes of Motherwell etc…?

          I admit I’m a bit jealous too.

  12. yes i agree to a certain degree but bellamy is a cardiff boy wants to be with his family in cardiff and has always wanted to help his local team whilst still in his prime his motovation is too get us promoted ! this deal fell on are lap we would be totally crazy to turn it down would any of you honestly turn him down ? Also by the sound of it we are not paying more of his wages than say chopra gets or what ledley was offered to stay WE ARE LUCKY HE WAS BORN IN CARDIFF as it would have been awful if he went to swansea !

  13. Yes a high percentage of clubs are in debt but the debt that clubs like Manchester United etc.. owe is serviceable. Cardiff City have defaulted on their creditors and the Motherwell situation is a good example. Cardiff never even bothered to turn up to court last week and basically gave an IOU. So if debts are being paid late or not at all then that club have debts that are NOT serviceable. The likes of Manchester United pay their dets on time without fail as they have such a massive turnover.
    Cardiff fans are coming out saying that through shirt sales and extra ticket revenue it will be serviceable – but this is only short term and the creditors will want assurance that their debts will be paid as agreed, not one bit here and then another sum there. You cannot pay creditors when you feel like it.
    In laymans terms it’s like me pleading poverty in a courtroom and at the same time I am driving around in a brand new porsche which I have just bought.
    The FA have now asked Cardiff how they plan to finance the deal but as always they will get away with it again!

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