Never felt more like singing the blues, when Forest win, and Derby lose whoa-oh-oh!

Tys: Making headlines for the wrong reasons, despite not being at fault

Nottingham Forest – 3
Derby County – 2

I’m going to deal with Tysongate seperately, I think.  Having just about risen from the fug of a monumental hangover I’m still rather surprised that the finger seems to be pointing to him rather than the Derby players who laid into him.  Still, at least it is being investigated by an organisation renowned for their common sense approach and aren’t in the least bit likely to sucumb to a knee-jerk reaction.  Oh dear!

Right, so yes, the game.  A sublime first half, a three-nil cushion at half time but still – in this author’s mind at least – a nervousness that we might do something stupid.  And we nearly did, well, we did – but not quite badly enough to undo the first half!  We lined up with:

Camp
Gunter    Morgan    Chambers    Cohen
Garner    McKenna    Majewski    Tyson
McGoldrick    Blackstock

And well, it all started rather well.  Savage did his usual gurning at the Forest fans in both the Main Stand and Brian Clough Stand before the warm up (of course, this isn’t incitement at all, is it?).  The atmosphere started to build during the build-up to the kick-off and erupted almost immediate effect after Chris Gunter had a speculative shot that was blocked, the ball falling the Radoslaw Majewski who rifled an absolute belted beyond Bywater to give us a lead we’d never relinquish.

One of Derby’s very few shots on goal that we didn’t kick in for them came shortly after, Garner had fouled Moxey but Savage’s freekick was easy for Camp to deal with.  As was what used to be the menace of Rob Hulse – who looked half the player that scared us shitless last season.  At the other end we were putting on good pressure and looking dangerous, a cross/shot by Cohen was inches away from finding a striker to prod it in, and went wide.

It wasn’t long to wait for a second though, it was almost assisted by Kris Commons too!  He fouled Joe Garner, giving us a freekick on the right.  Cohen curled a lovely ball into the six yard box finding Blackstock who has been credited with the goal, but I think it was likely it took a hefty and possibly decisive deflection off a Derby player – I couldn’t be sure at the time and obviously was taken up with far too much celebrating afterwards!

Hearts were in mouths though when Cohen conceded a freekick (I’m still not sure what for) which was pumped into the box near Hulse, unsurprisingly.  Camp saved well from the initial effort but could only divert the ball back into play – where Hulse was lurking to nod the ball in.  The linesman already had his flag up, so the celebrating Derby fans had that sinking moment we all know and hate – unless, of course, it’s happening to your bitter rivals!  It was chalked off for pushing and shoving – I was too far away to see if that was fair or not.

Just as we were saying “We need to not concede before half time, like last time!” to one another, Commons went and did us another favour.  He pretty much gave up the ball to McKenna who found Blackstock.  Dex looked up and saw Tys on the run – Tys pointed where he wanted it, Dex obliged – it looked nervous for a moment when he rounded Bywater, but the lad done good and managed to slip the ball into the waiting goal to give us a rather splendid 3-0 lead.

It was all grins at half time for the home fans, but I am a nervous Forest fan by nature – so a glance through my text messages at around half time are full of messages I received saying “Get in! We’ve nailed this..” etc and my replies forewarning doom and not to be counting any chickens etc.  And gosh darn it, Forest only went and almost proved me right with what was to be a second half collapse really.

Clough Jnr made the wise decision of taking off the ineffective Commons – although I think the problem was the former Reds man never made it into the away dressing room because he was still safely tucked away in Paul McKennas pocket.  The Rams really had two options open to them in this fixture – damage limtation or just going for it – and, to their credit, they took the second option.  Ably assisted by Forest’s strange desire to sit back that frustrates us all – and a little bit probably by our lads being tired after midweek games take their toll.

It only took five minutes to give the away fans something to cheer about.  Miles Addison tried the clumsiest overhead kick in the world, there was no power in it at all, and after a deflection off Wes Morgan it bobbled horribly into the corner.  I’ve yet to see the goals on telly, at the time I was convinced Camp had plenty of time to get there and had assumed he thought it was going wide – but that can be deceptive on the day, I concede.  Either way, a poor goal to concede (if there’s such a thing as a good goal to concede, but y’know what I mean!).

Derby continued to probe and scrap, with Forest content mostly to ride the punches given that generally they posed little bite.  A dangerous tactic, but one that seemed to be working.  Until another unfortunate moment for Camp.  Lee Croft’s header took a deflection off Livermore taking the ball into the goal – much like before, it looked like the ‘keeper could’ve done more (or maybe look like he wanted to!) rather than just stand there looking confused!

At this point Forest realised they needed to contribute somewhat more to the game, and a break by Tys set up Dele for a header which was straight at Bywater.  At this point Garner and Dex had been substituted for McCleary and Adebola.  Billy made his final move and took off McGoldrick for Earnshaw.  The Reds started to take back control of the match which had been inexonorably Derby for most of the half.

The Reds fans actually backed the team in their moment of need – cajoling from both Billy Davies and Camp certainly helped matters in this regard.  The only real remaining incidents of note were McCleary booked for a foul on Savage – it was a foul, his ridiculous dive wasn’t really necessary though, and finally McKenna went down under a foul by Derby substitute Paul Dickov.  He was eventually helped off the pitch limping rather badly – which is a concern.

The only remaining bit of danger from the Rams was from a late long throw-in, which Camp claimed comfortably.  Despite only 5 minutes of stoppage time being called, the referee deigned to play eight – but fortunately the Derby players were looking jaded and defeated leaving Forest to simply weather a not particularly emphatic storm and await the final whistle and collect the Brian Clough Trophy for the first time.  I still think it’s a stupid idea, but since it exists, I would rather we had it than them, for obvious reasons!

A deserved win, a cracking win – one I celebrated with far too much alcohol leaving me feeling decidedly ropey even now!  And one where the FA apparently question a player in his own ground celebrating with his own fans by waving a Forest flag.  If their findings are anything other than Nathan Tyson doing nothing wrong, and they charge the Derby players who started punching him, then the FA is a farce.

Unfortunately I already know the FA is a farce, so it won’t be beyond them.  I wonder if they will look back to Robbie Savage twirling that scarf infront of A-Block, which was actually inciteful, but our players didn’t pile in, and our fans took it.  Sure, it was a bitter pill to swallow – but they won, and he was celebrating – that’s what happens, you deal with it and hope for your chance to reciprocate – unfortunately, Derby seem to be able to dish it out but not take it.

Finally, apologies for the lack of Twitter updates.  Apparently O2 were having problems which prevented me getting on the internet via my mobile – increasingly the City Ground is becoming a tricky area to get data coverage as I suspect it gets a bit overloaded with the concentration of people using mobile devices in the area.  I shall see if there’s anything I can do about it.

Oh yes, almost forgot, Blackburn at home in the next round of the Carling Cup.  Good draw, that.

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18 Responses

  1. morning nffc hows the head ? – just watched some good footage on youtube featuring tysons flag waving,firstly he collected it from a groundsman who’d just taken in out the ground then he ran straight across the pitch towards the BC stand probably level with the six yard box so no where near the bleeters in the bridgeford lower until bywater,savage and addison i think start pulling and pushing him towards the afor mentioned mardy t****, secondly if the FA do look into the incident then the police will also get involved due to bywater’s antics in the mellee with his half dozen upper cuts into dexter blackstock after throwing off his gloves ice hockey style, but hey its the FA after all so they’ll probably do nowt……… clough jnr ought to instill a bit of self respect into his team and get them to keep there mouths shut in front of the cameras, bit like our lads last year when they’d witnessed the horrible b********* savage scarf waving with fatty !!!! special mention for lee camp and his arm twirling/getting the fans going last ten minutes ! made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck ! (ps the youtube footage just put nathan tyson into search)

  2. Well deserved 3 points. The sheep can gain some credit for pushing us close but as for their reaction to Tys, it’s nothing short of an embarrassment to those players. Did anyone see Robbie Savage slating Tys on the Championship Show, the BBC really shouldn’t have used him if they new the history of the fixture. He’s simply adding fuel to the fire again trying to wind the Forest fans up. What a c**k.

  3. Mornin’ nffc – hope the day gets ‘clearer’ for you!

    Agree with everything you say but would add two comments;

    1. Thought Garner played his best ever game for us in his new role of midfield ‘destroyer’. Clearly BD had asked him to shackle Savage and he did with great effect. I remember Savage running the show last year – not yesterday and I feel that was due, almost entirely, to Garner’s ‘close attention’.

    2. I agree with some of your Tys comments, but irrespective of whether he did or didn’t do anything wrong, it was at best, foolish. Celebrating in front of A block is great, but from my view at the front of the Bridgford Upper, I think he ran far too close to the Derby fans and he chose to run between the Derby fans and their players – he could have chosen to run to the Brian Clough stand further away from the Derby fans and therefore wouldn’t have been near the Derby players who were applauding their fans. I am sure he will realise, with hindsight, that it was stupid and knowing the FA is likely to cause some ridiculous ramifications for which we will all suffer.

    That said, fantastic game, brilliant first-half, amazing entertainment and perhaps the day when Forest’s ‘boys’ started to become ‘men’.

    • Should have mentioned Garner, because whilst McKenna nullified McCommons, you’re right – he did a great job on the mincer.

      It was unfortunate he picked up a booking which I suspect precipitated his substitution – because we looked less assured without him in the side.

      I still think Tyson did nothing wrong – of course, he COULD have run across the half way line instead – but why should he have to? Hopefully the FA see sense and order Savage to be executed 😀 Okay, hopefully they charge the players who can be seen throwing punches (Derby players), charge Leacock and his two mates for causing the whole thing, and that should be an end to it.

  4. great day out.

    tyson did wrong though.

    however is there is one person in the world who has no right to speak out it is that gypsy twat savage.

    both actions caused the same results.
    1 set of fans happy
    1 set of fans angry

    yes savage did it in front of his own fans but,
    1, he pissed about for a lot longer
    2, he did at an away ground that happend to be their bigget rivals.

    so STFU savage, your a twat

    sat in front of mcgugan, my boy has his tracksuit top on, clocks mcgugan and removes top to display forest top with mcgugan on the back !!!

    great moment, thats what footballs all about………oh and beating derby of course

  5. Great game. Lots of pluses but some negatives. At some points I had no idea what formation we were playing. Garner started on the right, but was drifting in field a lot, and at times I thought McGoldrick looked lost, he never really got into a settled position. Maybe he was meant to drift but he was pretty anonymous. I thought Blackstock was really struggling to hold up the ball, he is pretty lightweight, and it seemed fruitless to just keep pumping it forward as the Derby cb’s were gobbling them up.

    Majewski is class. McKenna just a good wise head, knows when to foul! Morgan was solid. Camp was excellent. As was Tyson. First half our team was solid, but in second half, Derby were all over us which was slightly worrying. Croft was having a field day with Cohen, and showed what a proper winger will do to an unnatural LB. This may have in turn started to put Chambers out of joint as he started doing silly things, which was a shame as he had a good first half. The most worrying thing for me was that Savage really did run things in the second half. Not sure whether that was due to him having more time as we naturally began to sit back, or McKenna & Raddy starting to feel the 120mins in midweek, or, and the one I would be worried by, is the CM partnership lacking a real dynamic nature?

    Brilliant game, great atmosphere, good home goals, some fantastic performances, and a good ole fight to show the fans they have heart for the club. Loved it. Hopefully the springboard for the rest season ahead. Still need a CB, and will be interesting what BD does when the moose is fit, as he was the athlete we lacked late on yesterday.

    Think we’ll do Rovers in the cup

    U-Redsssss!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Not sure you can say camp was solid, he really should have stopped their second goal, and Garner was best when he was playing in the middle and completely nulifying savage for the first hour, once he went off savage had so much room, probably Billy’s biggest mistake I thought. And I cant wait for lynch to come back so we can play Cohen and Raddy, to show Mkenna that just because he’s captain he does first need to warrant a place in the side. He gets through alot of work but i could count the number of succesful passes he’s made this season on one hand!!

  6. I cant help but think this result will really kickoff our season. The incident as usual was blown out of proportion.
    For a club with even fewer trophies than Burton Albion, derby are that arrogant to think the City Ground shouldn’t offend the frailties of loosing to a better team.
    Fuck you derby, you little american franchise, terrible losers

  7. Point of information on the Hulse ‘goal’. It was a free kick that shouldn’t have been. Handball that was 100% ball to hand. Brilliant touch onto the post by Campo, the the whistle went, then Hulse put in the rebound. Reflecting on one of the big disappointments of the day, ex-hero Nigel is now just a whinging moaning poor opposing manager. He took a big swipe at the ‘premiership’ officials. I really believe the ref disallowed the goal because he reconsidered it was never a freekick in the first place.

    • Maybe! Certainly the flag was up before Hulse put the rebound in. It was the linesman rather than the referee.

      Before Derby actually did score there was a blatant handball by Hulse in the build-up. These things generally even themselves up as the game goes on.

  8. Im still smiling and loved watching savage getting it in the neck well done lads we certainly have grown a set of balls under BD.

    U reds

  9. 1. Savage complete disgrace, surely if Eduardo can be suspended for diving so can he for that horrendous pirouet spin he did when Macleary touched his shoulder. And for him to call anyone in football disgraceful is possibly the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard!
    2. Claridge who i’ve always admired appears to be a bit of a prick with his “analysis” of Tysons celebrations.
    3. How are none of the press aware that whilst there may have been 4000 d***y fans in the stand there’s also about 4000 forest fans above them!
    4. Tyson was doimg nothing wrong and was only an issue when leaCOCK stormed over and started the fight, followed by sum blond chap who probably deserves more punisshment for hitting about 6 of our players and staff.
    5. I always ahve and thought I always would love Bigel but I was disappointed with his comments, he could have easily said nothing but chose to stir it up.
    6. Whilst I dont like to criticise forest players I cant help but tink that at the moment our weakest link is Mkenna, who despite all his work rate doesnt actually appear to know how to pass a football, anybody else think this or am I alone in thinking his inury cuold be a blessing?
    7. Commons. Ha Ha Ha Ha
    8. Most importantly FOREST 3, Scum 2!!!

  10. 1. Savage complete disgrace, surely if Eduardo can be suspended for diving so can he for that horrendous pirouet spin he did when Macleary touched his shoulder. And for him to call anyone in football disgraceful is possibly the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard!
    2. Claridge who i’ve always admired appears to be a bit of a prick with his “analysis” of Tysons celebrations.
    3. How are none of the press aware that whilst there may have been 4000 d***y fans in the stand there’s also about 4000 forest fans above them!
    4. Tyson was doing nothing wrong and was only an issue when leaCOCK stormed over and started the fight, followed by sum blond chap who probably deserves more punisshment for hitting about 6 of our players and staff.
    5. I always have and thought I always would love Nigel but I was disappointed with his comments, he could have easily said nothing but chose to stir it up.
    6. Whilst I dont like to criticise forest players I cant help but think that at the moment our weakest link is Mkenna, who despite all his work rate doesnt actually appear to know how to pass a football, anybody else think this or am I alone in thinking his inury could be a blessing?
    7. Commons. Ha Ha Ha Ha
    8. Most importantly FOREST 3, Scum 2!!!

  11. Just to talk about the match for a moment – what a first half!! Can’t remember the last time the reds played with just cohesion, interplay. Seeing players switch positions was great. McGoldrick I though has a great game Ryan. His covering, tracking back and willingness to put in a tackle was excellent. He also won nearly everything in the air. Garner was excellent, as was McKenna. Tys was, I thought, the anonymous one untill he was played through by Dex for his goal (which he did his best to upcock). Gawd only knows what Camp was doing for their first goal. At the time I thought he could have got to it easily and having watched replays, I still think he could have got to it although maybe not quite as easily as I first thought. At the very least he should have bloody tried!!

    King Billy was great towards the end, not only with him geeing up the Trent End but the clenched fist punch of delight at the win was great to see.

    Top game, well done lads.

    As for Tyson, I did think at the time it was a bit silly to walk infront of the Derby fans and if I’m honest, I don’t really think Savage or the goalie did too much wrong, I think they were “just” telling Tyson not to di what he was doing. Then all the players dived in and all hell broke loose. I think Blackstock could be in the biggest trouble and one angle shows Wes giving someone a slap.

    Best of all, my 6yo learnt two new chants today: “You’re sh!t and you know you are” and “Robbie Savage, what a w@nker, what a w@anker”. So proud.

    UUUU REEDDSS!!

  12. Sorry, Got over excited. Meant to add a couple of things. My son and I hung around after the game as he wanted to grab a couple of autographs. McKenna appeared wearing flip-flops and walking quite freely and Kelvin Wilson said he was clear of injury and fit now, just not match fit. Wonder why he wasn’t on the bench then?

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