Is there a storm brewing at the City Ground?

David Pleat: Time on his hands could be time spent with Forest..

Right, I’ve had some ponder time.  Mainly I wanted to reflect on being concerned about the dischord that is clearly present backstage at the City Ground – however, before I get on to that, I found one of those holy grail things – a match report from a neutral.  You see, I know from reading my reports that I’m biased as hell – as are most ‘fan’ reporters – and newspapers generally are too, well, crap.  But this chap is a footy fan, but not a Forest or QPR one.  Interesting – and reassuring – reading.

Anyway, being homebound whilst Forest were on their travels I had Radio Nottingham on – and both before AND after the game Billy saw fit to mention the transfer acquisition panel.  And he did so with minimal provocation from BBC’s Robin Chipperfield who was conducting the interview.  Whilst he didn’t openly criticise it, his comments – to me at least – were underpinned with a more barbed sense of bitterness.

Personally I tend to side with John McGovern’s comments on air before the game – Billy Davies ultimately is the man responsible for achieving the aims of the board.  He will certainly be the one that gets the chop if things continue to not go well, and the transfer committee – the same committee who were in place with the former manager – will remain in place.  Now, my memory isn’t short enough to understand why Nigel Doughty has installed a number of checks and balances.

Two words, David and Platt.  However, it feels like we’ve created some kind of bureaucratic nightmare that allows our opponents to steal a march on us when sealing the deal for targets.  I’ve heard at least one alarming example of this – a target had discussions, agreed in principle, then delayed (by Forest) at the last minute only for another club to pop in ready with a contract all ready to be signed.  It’s no wonder he felt more wanted by the other club.

When Davies is identifying targets and putting them to the panel, and they aren’t signing them, then it’s hard to be too harsh on the manager.  Simplistically people say “Well he’s spent £5m+, what more does he want?”, but whilst it can sound like whining, he is right when he says he’s getting Forest up to standard for this level – something which Smoulderwood really did.  It’s just ironic that defense-strengthening – something Smoulders ignored completely – is proving difficult a level higher this time around.

If David Pleat ‘having more time on his hands’ means he can get his finger out and do his part of the acquisition committee quicker – then great.  But certainly Forest need to slicken up their activities in the transfer market otherwise we will continue to miss out on players.  Given some of Davies’ past signings (particularly for Derby) I can understand Forest’s caution – but let’s not make the poor fella operate with one hand tied behind his back.

In other news (okay, rumourville), apparently Earnie is attracting the interests of Newcastle.  Much of this seems to be borne from Smoulders ‘scouting’ him – given the fact he managed him for a while, that seems unlikely!  The rumoured price of £3m would seem ludicrous – I would want more if we were to sell him, and I would prefer to keep him.  Meanwhile our search for a defender has apparently seen us look to Stoke for Sonko, as well as Harley from Watford (and Dawson from Spurs on loan? Surely not!).

One former target we were looking at has undergone a horrific ordeal – West Ham United’s Calum Davenport was attacked in his home, stabbed in both legs and requiring emergency surgery.  His mother was also attacked in the same incident.  Whilst it is early to say, it is being reported that he may not play again.  Naturally my and I’m sure everybody else’s very best wishes go to him and his mother during their recovery.  Two men have been arrested, hopefully the bastard responsible is caught and punished.

14 Responses

  1. ditto nffc ! callum davenport apparently attacked because of the company kept by his wayward sister – as for billy 100% behind hin

  2. Well, quite honestly a man with two stabbed legs would provide a reasonable acquisition at the moment. FFS, when will Forest learn…..

    • Martin

      Are you retarded??

      Your comments are misplaced & quite frankly offensive.

  3. Good article as usual. David pleat and mark arthur,nigels buddies frighten me to death..
    .They always seem to be the weak link at the club,and arthur telling Billy that pleats been sacked and now has more time to interfere in the club is just a sick joke.
    .i would rather have kept Pembo than these two clowns. Lets hope someone realises Billy needs a couple of defenders NOW and the fact penetrates one of the dormant brains on this panel and action is taken,certainly before next saturday !!!!!!!!!!
    Well done to the players for the draw at qpr !!

  4. Well put NFFC and I agree 100%.

    Its been mooted a couple of times already on the radio, but when WBA’s full back got injured, they managed to bag a loan replacement within 24 hours from Chelsea (and yes, I know its an old boy net work thing but nevertheless….!)

    Now our transfer acquisition panel doesnt appear to allow BD to move that rapidly and with the window due to close shortly, surely time is not on our side.

    If (and I PRAY its a big if) we dont manage to secure a couple of half decent defenders PDQ I think we could find ourselves in deep poo.

    This is a tough enough league as it is without having to start 8-10 points adrift from the top teams.

  5. 1stly, I like to stand by the manager – for now – and say that yesterday’s comments during & after the match from me were not to supportive of our manager. I felt, he chose a team which couldn’t get anything but after the break got a goal back & a point.

    It doesn’t matter what we think of his team line up, he’s the man in charge of line-ups & the team and if they don’t lose then good for all of us all around.

    Now, as for Earnie, all this transfer rumour is v. unerving & contradictive. Why? Do “we are not a selling club” & “six strikers” say anything. If Earnie was to leave (& being left on the bench only fired up these rumours) then all the words which have been said are now null.

    Meaning, imo, we will be told a & end up with z unless of course, a bid of 5m would be more tempting (I heard s/thing of that amount) & would be more acceptable. (Silly bids which r too ridiculous to turn down have happened many-a-time).

    So, BD will need a new striker as well as those defenders too. Anybody noticed a free scoring ex-Forest player lately?

  6. I think Billy is the best manager with a good track record Forest have had for a very long time. I think he knows his business and the result at the end of the season will prove as such. I understand the transfer committee though and I can see why is WAS necessary when Doughty and Co insisted on employing muppet managers time after time. But I think the reigns should now be let lose and Billy given freedom to get what he needs to make Forest a great team again. Adding sentiment to your comments NFFC, horrible to see what happened to Davenport. I hope he makes it back to football in some form.

    As for other transfer, I thought this would happen when Billy starting buying 3 top scoring strikers. 6 was always seen as a tad excessive so it’s no surprise that people have come aknocking for Earnie, personally I think we can live without him though he wasn’t bad. And if the rumours have anything in them at all, I can see him leaving. Maybe the income of a sale will ignite this muppet committee into action and lead to 2 or 3 defenders coming in. Sonko would be a good buy, Shittu too, Elliot and Whitbread would also help. Dawson, well it would be fantastic but sadly fantastical and will never happen. The only problem I see in all this is that 1 week starts and a new batch of rumours start concerning one particular player. Next week comes and it’s somebody else. At this rate we will be in for John Terry in the final week of August and be left with exactly the same defense we have right now. Vital Forest is expecting a business week. We’ll see if they get this one right.

  7. It is inevitable that BD will have to keep rotating the strikers to keep them all happy but this is not necessarily the best thing for the team.

    Selling Earnie would be a mistake, especally to another championship side and if it happens then it is nothing but bad news for Forest.

  8. Nice one nffc im 100% behing the gaffer aswell but am concerned about all this.As far as i can see its jobs for the boys and i dont rate pleat if forest make a pigs ear of this and davis walks or it rocks the boat they are all clowns in my book.

    I will take up rugby i think !

  9. No ambitious team sells their top striker especially when he is happy here and any offer less than 5 million is a joke anyway.
    Don´t sell Earnie is the message,and get rid of pleat and arthur is the other message LOUD and Clear !!!

  10. Back of my hols and my son and I are looking forward to the weekend.

    Where the hell are all the defenders we were supposed to sign? Hell, where is ANY defender we wanted to sign??

    McGoldrick looks quality from the clips I’ve seen and I think him and Earnie could be a good partnership. I think my son would throw away his season ticket if Robbie was sold!!

    Bring on the sheep… YOU REDS!!

  11. So Calderwood watched Earnshaw v Watford? I’m surprised they think he’s worth 3m after that performance! He had a shocker.
    Having said that he is the one true class striker we have, so he’s allowed the odd bad game.

    Hmm, BD is publicly complaining about Pleat and the “transfer committee”, is he. Might have been an idea to get these things sorted when ND was calling you up last Christmas, eh Billy??

    Get Moloney back, Davies. It’s not rocket science. He played very well for us in this very division last season. He is registered to NFFC.

    And while I’m moaning about Mr Davies, let me just say that if I see the same sort of body language tomorrow night as we saw against Watford I’ll be out of my seat banging on your perspex dugout, mate.
    When a struggling player looks over to the bench he’s looking for leadership, not a sulky bloke pouting.

    Thank You!

    • 1stly Mattyboy, I agree with your thoughts over BD & his body language in the dugout. Players need to see their manager at least with some emotion, not slumpped on the bench. As for getting players back, can we on a 6 month loan?

      BD & the transfer committee need to find a middle path somewhere, someway b4 they tear themselves apart. The last thing we need is that.

      As for tonight, a Middlesborough fan site is accusing us of porkies on the injury list yet in another article list 1/2 a dozen of their players injured & Southgate not bothered about the cup. If there’s truth in the articles then it’s gonna be a very dull match I fear. I hope not but any sort of win is a bonus to the club I’d think.

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