Paying the penalty?

Pat Miller, the latest partially sighted referee to grace the City Ground..

Pat Miller, the latest partially sighted referee to grace the City Ground..

I didn’t make any comment in yesterday’s match report, because I wasn’t very well sighted of the incidents.  But yet again I spotted a couple of incidents in the penalty area of our opposition which I wondered perhaps why we weren’t awarded a spot kick.  And it’s not exactly been the first time this season.  Just what exactly do we have to do to be awarded a penalty kick?  We’ve not had one at all yet this season – and it’s not like we’ve been without decent shouts for them either!

Without looking up the numbers, we’ve conceded a fair few – some of which were dubious, some of which were undoubtedly deserved.  We have also had ‘getting away with it’ moments, most notably Breckin’s rather obvious shove on Kris ‘fatboy’ Commons during the Derby game.  But generally, we seem to be getting somewhat short-changed by referees in this regard, that said, 90% of the fouls committed by Blackpool players yesterday were generally ignored by the referee, so it would’ve been a miracle if he’d broken the cycle!

Of course, these things happen.  We went through that rather odd opening season where we got given loads of penalties but missed them (oddly none of them costing us any points), I think that was Smoulderwood’s first season.  But it does seem strange.  Of course, there’s a strong argument that we don’t get into dangerous areas in the penalty area often enough, which bears out with the statistics of not being awarded any.  Perhaps we just don’t have as many incidents occurring sufficient for the myopic match officials to spot.

Sheffield United are well into double-figures for penalties this season already; clearly they usually play with more attacking than they did in their turgid (yet still winning!) performance at the City Ground this week.  The disparity is pretty vast; and whilst I think we’d all agree we’d like to see Forest attacking the penalty area more, I refuse to believe that Blackwell’s bunch of negative buggers do so as significantly more often than us to explain away the disparity between the number of penalties we’ve been awarded respectively.

We’re now half way through the season, and let’s be honest – quite often we’ve bemoaned our lack of luck (to a point where it’s become infuriating as an excuse) – and frankly, the calibre of refereeing is definitely part of this problem.  I honestly think the standard of officiating was generally better in League One than it has been this season so far.  To say we’ve seen the likes of Thornhill and McGugan pick up red cards for very little, yet defenders left free to boots Tyson all over the pitch is infuriating.

The penalty count I suppose is really the tip of the iceberg; but surely it must be unusual for a team not to have had at least one when half way into a league campaign?

17 Responses

  1. interesting reading NFFC, dont know about the reffing standards in league 1 being better though ?

  2. I’m not suggesting League One reffing wasn’t hopeless, just that this season in the Championship seems even worse, which I hadn’t thought possible last season!

  3. NFFC you asked for solutions in your last blog.

    Improve the quality of our diving into the penalty area. If we were Argies we’ve have had as many as Sheff U now.

    What about more Earnshaw like triple salco with double back flip’s?? That’ll impress the ref. if nothing else.

  4. 18 points from 23 games is woeful football stats i tell you what we are paying the penalty for.

    Complete mismanagement of our promotion to the CCC .Good teams get penalties cos they make the opposition make blunders.I hate to say we are a poor side in this leage and our manager by a miracle has not been sacked.

    Sorry guys the writing is on the wall we will all suffer the remainder of this season !

  5. if you stick 3 goals in the back of the net, who gives a toss about the refs!

  6. looks like somebody at the “nottingham evening post” has been reading this blog cos they’ve just run nearly the same story/findings as your good self nffc !!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. @steve we don’t need to dive. we just need the fouls committed against us to be converted into penalties.

    on saturday tyson was being visibly pulled by his shirt in the box. i could see it from the trent end. the defender had a handful of shirt and you could see tys wobbling as the defender grabbed at him. the ref was staring directly at it, from about eight yards away, gave nothing and then gave bennett a talking to for complaining about it.

    it’s not an excuse though; just the way of the world. the man u’s of this world win titles by getting penalties for nothing, the relegated teams can count in double figures the number of perfectly valid penalties that aren’t given.

  8. my mistake bout the NEP running same story they’re on about nottingham rugby – sorry

  9. To be fair Rahoul, Tyson was doing just as much shirt tugging as the defender so siz on one, half a dozen of another in that particular instance in my book.

  10. Indecision, followed by indecision; in relation to CC instead of reacting to each performance on a game by game basis shouldn’t we really be looking at his two and a half year spell as a whole. First two years in charge were largely forgetable and indeed awful at times punctuated by a late surge that somehow saw us promoted. This season entertainment-wise has been pretty good only problem being results have been awful. As a background to his period in charge the manager has been backed to the hilt financially in relation to 95% of the teams in this division.

    Is it really acceptable for supporters/”the powers that be”continuing to allow the club to stumble towards relegation. We are continually taking one step forward and two back. Whilst I can understand everyone’s ambivalence to making a change due to the number of incumberants that we’ve had in the last ten years; should be really just give up? I really think if we continue to accept mediocrity we are getting what we deserve. No matter how much I respect the bloke as a man, CC’s two and half years in charge have not been good enough therefore change must happen IMMINENTLY. Or we could wait until after we’ve beaten the Saints, drawn with Donny, lost to Norwich & Charlton…. by which time it could be too late!!!

  11. This is probably the only time I want the sheep to win….. Southampton must be praying cc doesnt play our captain Breckin and sticks with dithering wilson so they have a chance of winning ,probably with a penalty…..

  12. there are bound to be other teams who haven’t been awarded penalties this season. I don’t know that for a fact though.

  13. I’m not sure if we’ve gone just yet, but after the next 4 matches it’s probably a dead cert given the remaining fixtures when we’re actually up against some decent sides.

    I can see us winning one of them under Calderwood, but really you need to appoint a Manager now who can get a quick string of victories like when Pyscho became temporary Manager. Think he did 3 wins on the run straight away.

    I think it’s last chance saloon to sack CC this week and get someone in who can give us a chance. That’s if someone is available who Doughty approves of.

    Stuck overseas at present but I bet Match Talk was a bit fruity.

  14. Didn’t Everton go all last season without winning a single penalty until the second half of the last game? Of course, that’s Premiership, where the standard of refereeing is so much higher, so they were all legitimate non-penalties – right?

    MoD, when I watch it, comments on refereeing decisions in probably 60% of games, so I guess in many ways the Championship refs have the same issues of keeping up with the play as their Premiership counterparts.

    I agree with Bazza – if we had bagged a couple of goals by then (and we should have), the penalty decision becomes less significant. At the arse-end of the table you have to make your own luck, and we all know it’s in short supply when the team is not playing well. If you watch the Southampton game on Virgin Media, you will see that by the second goal the defenders were already beat – they were in disarray. After the third they had given up. (Second half was a different story – must have a good manager!) You need luck and spirit, and I for one am pleased that we still have the latter.

    I don’t think CC is a Championship manager – he wasn’t a great 3rd division manager. We have to hope he can learn, though, because there’s no great saviour out there on a white horse, ready to lead the way to glory. And please – no crap abour Keane or Allardyce, they are not going to come to a team about to drop into the third division. Ten years ago, then maybe, but we need to be a good 15 places higher on a regular basis before we can attract that calibre of manager.

  15. I have stopped calling for CCs head he aint going anywhere, good and bad

    GOOD side of things at least he has a small amount of confidence in the players and at least he is sticking it out.

    BAD he knows no one else will give him a job

    we need 12 points in the next 4 games no mistake….. After that no one could dig us out…

    It could all come down the Southampton at home 3rd of May..

  16. I was looking at some stats and noticed that we have the worst record in the league for games when we are drawing at HT (W0 D6 L6). For all 3 league games that we have won this season, we have been winning at half time. It shows a lack of resolve and inspiration. An inability to turn things round when it is not going right for us.

    To put in a context for the season as a whole, we are now at half time and we are losing. (Played 23, Won 3, drawn 9 and lost 11) It’s hard to see at the moment where the inspiration will come from to turn this game around!

  17. I wonder why Trevor Francis is suddenly getting involved in commenting on Forest. Does he see himself as a likely candidate for cc´s job.? Let´s just pray we do win the next 4 games !!!!!Anything can happen……

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