Forest vs. Coventry City preview..

I jokingly referred to this mouth-watering fixture as the ‘Clash of the Titans’ to a friend earlier in the week.  “Clash of the Titans? Clash of the Shite ‘uns, more like!” he quickly retorted.  Perhaps not quite up to Oscar Wilde levels of wit, but it tickled me regardless.  After a win against Leeds midweek whilst we lost at Boro the Sky Blues managed to elevate themselves to level points with us, going ahead of us in the table on goal difference.

Steve Cotterill has spoken pre-match about the need to get off to a good start.  Of course, he has great credentials for stating the bleeding obvious after the erudite observation post-Boro of the fact that had we kept a clean sheet we’d have won.  He’s right on both counts, a temperature-check around the online communities would suggest that if there aren’t signs of improvement then things could turn pretty ugly pretty quickly.

Ismael Miller has clearly been missing life in the treatment room, so is likely to be back there for this game with a hamstring tear, where he’ll find Moloney, Cunningham and Cohen who have longer term injuries.  This indifferent injury news is met with the marginally less indifferent news that Marcus Tudgay is recovered from illness – so we can replace one immobile non-prolific striker with another one.

Our visitors are likely to miss former Forest midfielder Sammy Clingan who has a groin injury, and will be missing Richard Wood and Hermann Hreidarsson in defence with a knee injury and a dislocated shoulder respectively.

Coventry have ominously failed to win on their travels all season – a couple of Sky Blue fans I know gloomily pointed this out to me and seemed a tad confused at the resulting look of dread on my face.  With two wins and four defeats in their last six, Coventry appear to be a team of ‘all or nothing’ – compared to our record of four defeats, one draw and one win – well, it’s marginally better, isn’t it?

Oddly their website is trying to bill it as some kind of local derby – which is even more ridiculous than Leicester trying to do so – however, it’s a massive game for both clubs.  If Forest can’t find it within themselves to register a win in this fixture, then it really doesn’t bode very well at all for us.  Hell, let’s be frank, we’d be down barring some kind of miraculous turnaround.  That could only come with a change of manager.

Away from Forest, Portsmouth are back in administration and facing at least a ten point deduction which could go up to twenty.  Whilst I have enormous sympathy for their supporters – when the club turned down offers for their squad in the window, yet now appear to not be able to pay for medical care for them, it’s difficult to not hope that the Football League do finally grow a pair and actually deal properly with such irresponsible practices.

Of course, that could be a bit of stone-throwing from within my greenhouse given the uncertainty surrounding our own financial position until we better understand Nigel Doughty’s last wishes regarding his commitment to Forest.  Of course ten points from Portsmouth hauls them into the relegation scrap as they’d be on 25 points much like us and Coventry, take twenty and they’d be rock bottom.

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25 Responses

  1. Take 25 off Portsmouth and I bet the Muppet in charge of Forest could still get us relegated!

  2. We’ll need more than just Portsmouth to go into administration to save us of we lose to Cov.

    Like you nffc I feel for the Portsmouth fans but surely the club should be getting more than 10 points deducted as this is the second time. Luton, Leeds and a few others have suffered this why should they be any different? They still have another parachute payment to come from the prem. But you’re right, those in glass houses and all that.

    However, all is fair in love and war. And I’d be more than happy to accept the same fate if Forest fall foul of financial mismanagement but what isn’t fair are different standards for different clubs. Lets have some consistency in punishments for this offence.

    • I think I’m right in saying it’s actually their third time entering administration…

      • True. . .according to the BBC news website “Remarkably, this is the third time Portsmouth have gone into administration in recent years. The club also went into administration in December 1998, prior to being taken over by the Serbian businessman Milan Mandaric.”

        • It would be unusual for any estate to be fully resolved this quickly – doubly so for one as probably complicated as Nigel Doughty’s was – I wouldn’t worry just yet.

      • In 1998 did were their penalties for going into admin? I’m only counting the ones were points deductions have been introduced this.

        • What????

          I’ll re write this.

          In 1998 were there points penalties for going into admin? I’m only counting the times where points deductions were introduced.

          That’s better.

          • Teehee.. yes, you’re right.

            I don’t see why a lack of punishment in terms of points means that trying to cheat your way out of fulfilling your financial obligations is any different though.

  3. I suspect we’ll win – just.
    I’ll have mixed feelings about that though.
    Delighted of course to get 3 badly needed points but it’ll take the pressure off S.C. – at least for a week or two.

    If we lose or scrape a goal-less, guile-less draw then it’s yet more evidence of S.C.’s inability and s-u-r-e-l-y one more nail in his managerial coffin.

    Rather more worried though about the Club’s statement re the Nigel Doughty estate. You’d think that a clear-cut “no debt obligation” would have been announced immediately. So it obviously aint that clear and neither presumably, is the ability to meet ND’s promise to finance the club until a new buyer is found.
    So don’t let’s get too smug about Pompey’s plight yet.

  4. Great post Nffc.
    So a cut throat, do or die, must win game
    for Forest in front of their own fans…
    Sorry folks, but I have officially snapped
    out of the notion that forest will turn
    the corner.
    We are softer than butter & have been for
    months.
    A hard fought win by Coventry midweek is just the
    ammunition they need to reverse their away
    form.
    In the meantime we will still be amazed at
    how Forest will have opportunities to kill
    off the game, watch SC make some wacky
    team selections and then listen to another
    mind boggling press conference.
    Hope I’m wrong!
    Rant over…

  5. The Portsmouth situation is just very sad for their fans to have to continue to endure. I hope that situation never happens to our club.

    An omen perhaps? Paul Hart was sacked after a defeat at home to Coventry in February 2004.

  6. I reckon Frank Clark should be made to manage the team till the end of the season. Never can such a poor CV as Cotterill’s been given such undue praise as that fateful evening before he was appointed. I’d really love to know who the 39 other applicants under consideration were…

    Sod it, let Terry the kit-man have a go!!

  7. Terry the kit-man’s red and white army!!

    Terry the kit-man is a red, he hates creases!

    Etc,etc…..

  8. If we sack SC and give him to Donny, he could get three clubs relegated in one season. Then he’d have to go to Holland to get another job.

    I want to win of course but we’re not staying up with him in charge so anything that hastens his exit I can probably stomach.

  9. Mishi quality statement that made chuckle I cant take Forest seriously anymore the whole thing is one big sinking ship.

  10. what happens if portsmouth lose 10 points and somehow we stop up , that then means we are stuck with him (cotter-nil) next season …i’d rather get relegated have a clear out and start from scratch …what do you think nffc ????

    • Tough call.. can’t ever want relegation, but Championship or League One – Steve Cotterill as manager would be a massive block to season ticket renewal next season…

    • Relegation? – no way jose. It would be less of a clear out, more of a meltdown. Income would go down from 15m to 8m and they have a wage cap of 55% of turnover – so our wages would have to go from 16m to about 4.5m.

      Even if we sold 18 of 24 players, (those on, say £5k per week and over) we’d have to replace them with players for about £1-2k per week.

      I hope we hang on this season, then in the close season O’Driscoll works his magic and turns us back into a footballing team again

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  12. Could be a strange fact that if Forest, Pompey and Doncaster go down, between the 2 of them, Cotterill and O’Driscoll would have had a hand in all 3 this season.

  13. NFFC, Your suggestion of gardening leave for cotteril and o driscol taking over for the rest of the season makes sense!!!
    Lets hope Clarke does something about it ! He is watching these performances …Christ, what else does he need to see ???
    On another subject, Birmingham wanted Mcgugan on loan …If he is not in this managers thoughts,why not loan him out with a possible recall after a month. Playing in the Birmingham side would keep him er match fit and put him in the window for a prospective buyer !

    Does ANYTHING in our club make sense at the moment??
    Cotterill will probably be saying Derbyshire should be playing for England next…. Scrambled brains all around!!!
    Cotterill Out demo. Tomorrow PLEASE !!!!!!!

  14. nffc ……can you post all comments on to frank clarke….he may just wake up !! MARTHURAND ALL THE DRIBBLE OUT !! ..VIVA FOREST !

  15. Well done lads … great result !

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