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	<title>Comments on: A golden goose (at Gamston) or a white elephant?</title>
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	<description>The mindless ramblings of a Forest fan half imbued with a probably misguided sense of optimism..</description>
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		<title>By: Albert Herring</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Albert Herring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So... it seems that they didn&#039;t actually think to ask the landowners of the green belt land at Gamston - the county council - whether they were willing to sell...

Quite a special class of planning cock-up, nesspa?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; it seems that they didn&#8217;t actually think to ask the landowners of the green belt land at Gamston &#8211; the county council &#8211; whether they were willing to sell&#8230;</p>
<p>Quite a special class of planning cock-up, nesspa?</p>
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		<title>By: dr_horse</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dr_horse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citing the cack-handed boardroom &quot;leadership&quot; at Anfield as some kind of example only fills me with further trepidation over the whole idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citing the cack-handed boardroom &#8220;leadership&#8221; at Anfield as some kind of example only fills me with further trepidation over the whole idea.</p>
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		<title>By: vassilis, athens, greece</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vassilis, athens, greece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgive me for the off-topic posting but:

Just came back from the Greece v England U21 game in Tripoli (160 km from Athens). Ended 1-1 with Greece missing three great chances to win (and I mean great!!!). Scott &quot;I-almost-killed-McGugan-by-mistake&quot; Loach was a real guardian angel in the English goal. Got my &quot;Psycho&quot; book signed by U-Know-Whom and I&#039;m all excited!

Also showed my Forest T-shirt to Miles Addison after congratulating him on his game (Stuart played him out of position as a defensive midfielder when he came in as a sub bit he did quite well I must confess) and told him: &quot;Rivalry is great, but it&#039;s only a game. Peace.&quot;

He smiled, and looked quite a nice guy to me (even though he still features in the Derby pack going after Tyson on my desktop!)

Now you can love or hate it, but that&#039;s the way I see it.

Goodnight!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for the off-topic posting but:</p>
<p>Just came back from the Greece v England U21 game in Tripoli (160 km from Athens). Ended 1-1 with Greece missing three great chances to win (and I mean great!!!). Scott &#8220;I-almost-killed-McGugan-by-mistake&#8221; Loach was a real guardian angel in the English goal. Got my &#8220;Psycho&#8221; book signed by U-Know-Whom and I&#8217;m all excited!</p>
<p>Also showed my Forest T-shirt to Miles Addison after congratulating him on his game (Stuart played him out of position as a defensive midfielder when he came in as a sub bit he did quite well I must confess) and told him: &#8220;Rivalry is great, but it&#8217;s only a game. Peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>He smiled, and looked quite a nice guy to me (even though he still features in the Derby pack going after Tyson on my desktop!)</p>
<p>Now you can love or hate it, but that&#8217;s the way I see it.</p>
<p>Goodnight!</p>
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		<title>By: Mansfield Red</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mansfield Red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keep the City Ground. Sod the World Cup, it isn&#039;t worth leaving our home for the sake of 2 or 3 games, and that&#039;s even if we win the bid.

Yeah we want to be moving forward, but we can do so right on Trentside. 

Look at it this way, if we left, would you EVER be able to call the new ground our home? I will not be able to. Call it cheesy, call it overly-sentimental, but nothing will ever compare to the City Ground, no matter how big, shiny or modern the new Stadium is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep the City Ground. Sod the World Cup, it isn&#8217;t worth leaving our home for the sake of 2 or 3 games, and that&#8217;s even if we win the bid.</p>
<p>Yeah we want to be moving forward, but we can do so right on Trentside. </p>
<p>Look at it this way, if we left, would you EVER be able to call the new ground our home? I will not be able to. Call it cheesy, call it overly-sentimental, but nothing will ever compare to the City Ground, no matter how big, shiny or modern the new Stadium is.</p>
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		<title>By: reddog</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reddog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new proposed stadium is all about money ,no other reason.I for one am not at all happy about losing our spiritual home for a plastic bowl set in surroundings more suitable for arable farming.Mr Marthur is a self seeking person and doesnt care where forest play football as long as the world cup minnows come and play in the plastic bowl .Can you picture a tuesday night game against grimsby in the cup you would have nigh on 40000 empty seats, what a piss take.Lets stay put and keep our rich history for the next generation of forest fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new proposed stadium is all about money ,no other reason.I for one am not at all happy about losing our spiritual home for a plastic bowl set in surroundings more suitable for arable farming.Mr Marthur is a self seeking person and doesnt care where forest play football as long as the world cup minnows come and play in the plastic bowl .Can you picture a tuesday night game against grimsby in the cup you would have nigh on 40000 empty seats, what a piss take.Lets stay put and keep our rich history for the next generation of forest fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Aylesbury Red</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aylesbury Red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point about Liverpool Radgie. And how many Arsenal fans would swap the Emirates now to go back to their beloved Highbury? 

Yes I know it&#039;s now a housing development but you know what I mean!  

If we build it, they will come...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about Liverpool Radgie. And how many Arsenal fans would swap the Emirates now to go back to their beloved Highbury? </p>
<p>Yes I know it&#8217;s now a housing development but you know what I mean!  </p>
<p>If we build it, they will come&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: radgie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radgie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An event like the WC in Nottingham would be fantastic, even if it is only a few games between crappy teams.

The amount of money generated in bars and cafes in and around squares and plazas would be tremendous.  I know someone who was in Austria last summer for the Euro Championships and they said they had a much better time in the city than at the game they went to.

Regarding the stadium move, a couple of things spring to mind... firstly, if Liverpool can consider leaving what is probably the most iconic ground in the country then anyone can.  And secondly, if they can overcome all the obstacles, regulations and bylaws they have to secure the Stanley Park site then Forest can overcome whatever barriers are preventing developing the City Ground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An event like the WC in Nottingham would be fantastic, even if it is only a few games between crappy teams.</p>
<p>The amount of money generated in bars and cafes in and around squares and plazas would be tremendous.  I know someone who was in Austria last summer for the Euro Championships and they said they had a much better time in the city than at the game they went to.</p>
<p>Regarding the stadium move, a couple of things spring to mind&#8230; firstly, if Liverpool can consider leaving what is probably the most iconic ground in the country then anyone can.  And secondly, if they can overcome all the obstacles, regulations and bylaws they have to secure the Stanley Park site then Forest can overcome whatever barriers are preventing developing the City Ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Fence Sitter</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2009/09/07/a-golden-goose-at-gamston-or-a-white-elephant/#comment-44711</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fence Sitter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I would wholeheartedly support a move to a new stadium that we shared with our (currently) less illustrious neighbours.

Move on people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I would wholeheartedly support a move to a new stadium that we shared with our (currently) less illustrious neighbours.</p>
<p>Move on people.</p>
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		<title>By: URED</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[URED]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of points on the new ground front.

Neither D**by or Leicester were able to fill thier previous grounds which had lower capacities than thier new grounds. On moving both clubs average attendances rose considerably. This was explained by the fact that both of the previous grounds had areas of poor viewing that fans did not want to sit in. In the new stadiums the bowl shape lessened this problem. 

As we know certain areas of the CG are poor for visibility and explained as the last areas to sell out when we have an important game. Also certain access points when leaving the CG are difficult to say the least. Getting out of the Trent End after a big game is a nightmare!! 

If we moved to a new stadium I belive attendances would rise based on the these points.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of points on the new ground front.</p>
<p>Neither D**by or Leicester were able to fill thier previous grounds which had lower capacities than thier new grounds. On moving both clubs average attendances rose considerably. This was explained by the fact that both of the previous grounds had areas of poor viewing that fans did not want to sit in. In the new stadiums the bowl shape lessened this problem. </p>
<p>As we know certain areas of the CG are poor for visibility and explained as the last areas to sell out when we have an important game. Also certain access points when leaving the CG are difficult to say the least. Getting out of the Trent End after a big game is a nightmare!! </p>
<p>If we moved to a new stadium I belive attendances would rise based on the these points.</p>
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		<title>By: winstanley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[winstanley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I  understand it, the City Council would love to get rid of both football grounds and develop Trentside. This has been at the back of their minds for a while. They have a vision of a Canary Wharf style project. Just look at all the new development creeping down London Road.

Furthermore, access to Gamston from the City is pretty limited, the A453 is a pain to negotiate at the best of times, unless of course they want us to travel through the leafy villages of East Leake and Normanton.

The other main question we need to ask ourselves is do 4 matches between the likes of north Korea and New Zealand (no disrespect) justify the investment.
Additionally, how many people from Nottingham will actually end up with tickets for these matches?

I&#039;m not fussed whether England gets the World Cup or not. I&#039;ll still be watching most of it on the TV.

It&#039;s another exercise for big companies to make loads of money at our expense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I  understand it, the City Council would love to get rid of both football grounds and develop Trentside. This has been at the back of their minds for a while. They have a vision of a Canary Wharf style project. Just look at all the new development creeping down London Road.</p>
<p>Furthermore, access to Gamston from the City is pretty limited, the A453 is a pain to negotiate at the best of times, unless of course they want us to travel through the leafy villages of East Leake and Normanton.</p>
<p>The other main question we need to ask ourselves is do 4 matches between the likes of north Korea and New Zealand (no disrespect) justify the investment.<br />
Additionally, how many people from Nottingham will actually end up with tickets for these matches?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not fussed whether England gets the World Cup or not. I&#8217;ll still be watching most of it on the TV.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s another exercise for big companies to make loads of money at our expense.</p>
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