Comments on: Commons finally turns traitor..

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:19:59 +0000

Matt, I understand where you’re coming from completely, we’ve been tortured for the past 5 seasons and I realise how important it is to let off steam. We are in their hands and apart from the results, the football as a spectacle has been pretty poor. I know we were lucky on the last day of the season but hope that there will be better opportunity to play better football in the championship. I’m sure the football at city ground will improve with a step up in quality so long as the group of players we have get to grips with it early enough. I’ve more faith in CC to do a better job than Jo(K)e Kinnear! I want to see good footy but I feel we need consistency too, only time will tell if CC is the man. Here’s hoping for a good start.

By: Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!!

Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!! — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:39:17 +0000

Just like Greece last night – sorry Vas, that was poor from the European Champions.

Anyway back 2 the Reds, no news on anything. All quiet….

By: mattyboy

mattyboy — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:29:31 +0000

Dan, I did say that he’d earned my respect. Of course I’ll get behind Forest again next year, and unlike a lot of fans if it does start to get a bit sticky I’ll carry on singing and backing the players as oppossed to booing at half/full-time. My mood swings are reserved for this blog (thank you nffc!).
I just want to enjoy my football. It costs me a lot of money at the start of the season renewing 5 season tickets, and as anyone with 3 kids will tell you a fair bit more buying the shirts and tracksuits etc, before you get ‘em all a drink and hotdog!
We also have to travel a long way for home games, therefore it’s a family day out. For that reason I dont see the point in me getting all mardy if things have gone against us, if I do then the kids will eventually decide not to come with a grumpy old man and stop supporting Forest. Unthinkable!
My point is that after all the effort I put into Nottingham Forest, I expect to see some kind of effort back. And too often that has been lacking.
You’re right about constantly changing managers, it doesn’t do us any good, and he probably will turn out to be the best we’ve had for many years. But only if he learns quickly. Some of the teams next season will hammer us if he muffs his tactics on the sort of scale he did last year…

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:57:50 +0000

Matt, You’ve simply said that I’ll be behind Forest next season but if we muff it up I told you so. CC got us to 2nd in a piss poor division. Even if we’ve got some great characters who we’re all grateful to for their heroics they are no way great players. I love Forest and want them to romp all the way back to the premiership, we’ll do that by all sticking together and sticking with a manager. The constant change of managers over the seasons have seriously damaged this club, CC may not be with us for 16 years but he’s earn’t a shot in the championship and he’s got a good record, he might turn out to be the best thing thats happend to this club for along time, he’s certainly the best manager we’ve had for the past few years. Get behind him get behind the team and let hope it’s a good start to the season.

By: Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!!

Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!! — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:26:16 +0000

What a season, what a difference a game makes. URED, rose tinted glasses – exactly. Like I’ve said, the cotton wool has not been pulled over my eyes because we got auto promotion on the last day of the season.

Donny & Carlisle didn’t bottle it on the last day, they bottled it in the last 3 (match days)!! where we managed to keep our guts & finally win more that 2 in a row. Oh what was that – FINALLY won more than 2 in a row. Yes, that word represents the whole season. Does anybody disagree that we had the best SQUAD in the league. Note, the emphasis.

The race is 42 games in the league but consistancy is the key. We only produced that consistancy at the end.

“Before Christmas”, I’d like to see who’s here for the start of the season, nevermind ’till then. The uncertaincy over Clingan & Agogo is not good for us. I wish Agogo’s agent drops dead (ok, maybe not that bad) but stops medeling in the players affairs when there’s no problem. We are NOT a 1st division side anymore & next season (2009-10) who knows what might happen. If Agogo’s happy so he should tell his agent to shut up and let him concentrate on being a Forest player. BTW – he got another 2 goals the other day again… Note to ND – the more he scores, the more you can ask 4… y don’t u price him out of the market??

We need to keep the players we have & add to them. Not lose & replace them…

1 last thing, 2 keep the negativity away Paul (& I’m all 4 being positive) we need 2 have s’thing 2 encourage that – so far we had 1 in, 3 out (including the 2 U-21′s released) and 2 players who we don’t know what’s happening with the 1 a free agent.

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:00:58 +0000

I don’t wear rose tinted glasses or expect people to apologise (as they are entitled to their opinions) however I do believe that luck evens itself out over a season and Forest were in a position to finish second on the last day and did. It was the points gained over the whole season that put us in that position, who we did or did not beat doesn’t really matter. Forest accumulated 82 points over 46 games to finish second and if we were lucky on the last day, we were unlucky on other occasions prior to that.
ND has put his faith in Colin and we should back him and the team from the start of the season – keep the negativity away and you never know what might happen…..

By: URED

URED — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:10:01 +0000

Mattyboy couldn’t agree more.
Now the dust has settled my view is this. Calderwood was asked to get us promoted prefferably automatically – which he did. Although I am not one of his biggest fans I thank him for that.
However…….. the reality is that the top six were far and away better than the rest of the division yet we lost to Luton (relegated) twice, Gillingham (relegated) Bournemouth (relegated). We also drew at home with Bournemouth and Crewe (nearly relegated) twice with Bristol Rovers (nearly relegated).
In reality Calderwood’s tactics particlarly in the first three quarters of the season were suspect and the football was poor. All those people saying Calderwood deserves an apology (including the NEP editor – idiot) should take off thier rose tinted glasses, which they found after that superb win over Yeovil and although superb was based on Donny losing therefore could have gone either way.
I believe that the jury is most firmly out on Mr Calderwood.
The question is where will we be at Christmas ??

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:11:37 +0000

Be upbeat – we got promoted and we can all look forward to nect season in the CCC.

three points:-

1. Donny didn’t lose their nerve, they lost on the last day to a team fighting to survive – it happens.
2. The Leeds situation was the same for all teams in League One
3. The season is 46 games long and over that period Forest finished second and were promoted.
4. Our unbeaten run in was promotion form in anyones book.
5. Thankfully Doncaster then beat Leeds and also got up, which they desrved for finishing 3rd.

By: mattyboy

mattyboy — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:02:58 +0000

Guys, I’m anti-CC. There, I said it.
Now, the reason I dislike Calderwood is because over the past 2 seasons he has presided over some of the most awful, turgid, diabolically inept performances we have witnessed for many years. Performances where the players have been played out of position, played with a lack of cohesion, desire and passion. Games where the team has run out of ideas, looked to the manager for inspiration (or just guidance) and been met with an impassive arms folded stance.
However, the promotion game against Yeovil was possibly one of the finest days seen at the CG for 30 years. The team won promotion, with CC in charge. So he ultimately delivered what he promised. For that alone he deserves my respect, and has earned a chance at taking us into the top half of the Championship and dare I say it, the play-offs….
Two things:
1, Donny lost their nerve and blew it.
2, Brett Ormerod won us promotion.
Thank God Leeds cheated and got caught, and that Doncaster capitulated, otherwise it would be Peterborough away next season.

I don’t like to sound downbeat after such an amazing end to the season, but unless Calderwood gets Clingan and Tyson to sign again he will be making a big mistake, in my opinion.
Still, I’ll be there again next season, with the family, doing our best to wake up the Trent End!!

By: Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!!

Yiannaki - Greece to win the Euros & complete a great footbaling season!! — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:50:09 +0000

Vas & anyone else who thinks I’m anti-CC. I’m not, he’s not giving me any reason to be confident. I like to take facts, he’s proven himself at lower level league football but he has failed to win the fans. We grabbed auto-promotion because we won & they lost at the end of the season.

CC and the great late Brian Clough (R.I.P) can be compared for the moment as both managers took 2 seasons to take us up – well Cloughie did it in a season & a half.

I’ll make it clear again I am not anti-CC. he took us up, yes. He’s earned & deserves more time but unless he convinces most of us that he can do what others haven’t in the Championship (& yes, it’s still early days) I will be cautious of his management. He has not proved sucsesful in his transfers & you can blame that on being in the 1st Div. yes but not totaly.

So. we all wait to see what will happen. The one thing for sure is this – unless a player signs on the dotted line, it’s only rumours.

Vas, Agogo said that b4 news filtered through of a bid from Egypt so you can strike that off and the remark about cash – what cash???