Comments on: Commons in talks with Derby.. http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/ The mindless ramblings of a Forest fan half imbued with a probably misguided sense of optimism.. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:49:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: ArrBee http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38078 ArrBee Wed, 21 May 2008 12:35:17 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38078 It's on the official site that he's going: http://www.nottinghamforest.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10308~1316820,00.html Admittedly it doesn't say where, but if it is the sh**p, then I'm sure he'll get a 'warm' reception next time at the CG... It’s on the official site that he’s going: http://www.nottinghamforest.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10308~1316820,00.html Admittedly it doesn’t say where, but if it is the sh**p, then I’m sure he’ll get a ‘warm’ reception next time at the CG…

]]> By: The Anti-Megson http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38076 The Anti-Megson Wed, 21 May 2008 06:56:21 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38076 Any news on Terry the kit mans contract negotiations? Any news on Terry the kit mans contract negotiations?

]]> By: james girling http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38067 james girling Tue, 20 May 2008 18:19:22 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38067 commons can be a great player but as you said he's not irreplaceable i think if we get another player in that is as good as him i wont mind!! i have to say he dosnt score the same type of goals as he did a couple of years i.e against preston and QPR nevertheless he can be a fantastic player! and i hope he dosnt choose to leave commons can be a great player but as you said he’s not irreplaceable i think if we get another player in that is as good as him i wont mind!! i have to say he dosnt score the same type of goals as he did a couple of years i.e against preston and QPR nevertheless he can be a fantastic player! and i hope he dosnt choose to leave

]]> By: Yiannaki http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38065 Yiannaki Tue, 20 May 2008 12:16:12 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38065 Ela Vas, now I got your remark about Giorgallidis - was he that bad last night? I was fearing worse that a 2-0 defeat against your lot last night. For the rest who got no idea what we're on about it was the 2-0 friendly win for Greece vs Cyprus last night & the player mentioned is the CY GK. Soz for the chat here but anyway... On the topic of GK who do the trickies think we should get as a reserve GK? The problem here is who might be willing to come here & play 2nd fiddle 2 Smithy? It's obvious that CC want's our other Keepers to get 1st team experience outside of the CG... (Again, going with the policy of playing our youth - yes., I'm being sarcastic again :) ) Ela Vas, now I got your remark about Giorgallidis - was he that bad last night? I was fearing worse that a 2-0 defeat against your lot last night. For the rest who got no idea what we’re on about it was the 2-0 friendly win for Greece vs Cyprus last night & the player mentioned is the CY GK. Soz for the chat here but anyway…

On the topic of GK who do the trickies think we should get as a reserve GK? The problem here is who might be willing to come here & play 2nd fiddle 2 Smithy? It’s obvious that CC want’s our other Keepers to get 1st team experience outside of the CG… (Again, going with the policy of playing our youth - yes., I’m being sarcastic again :) )

]]> By: Yiannaki http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38064 Yiannaki Tue, 20 May 2008 12:06:30 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38064 opote & opu 8es Vasills. Whenever & wherever u want for the rest who most don't have a clue about Greek!! & that goes to all trickies 2!!! Like I said, good signings has a different magnitude to each person but I agree fully with you that Smithy has been his best signing no matter the stick people have given him & last season (not this which has passed) a lot were saying get rid of him. How many remember that? I admit, I was suprised he managed to sign Lennon but even more supprised that he often left him out as the seson drew on before Christmas... Anyway, just read we're after a Wolves player now..... who else will they throw into the hat!! Rivaldo!!! BTW Vas, I follow the yellow side of Athens..... opote & opu 8es Vasills. Whenever & wherever u want for the rest who most don’t have a clue about Greek!! & that goes to all trickies 2!!! Like I said, good signings has a different magnitude to each person but I agree fully with you that Smithy has been his best signing no matter the stick people have given him & last season (not this which has passed) a lot were saying get rid of him. How many remember that?

I admit, I was suprised he managed to sign Lennon but even more supprised that he often left him out as the seson drew on before Christmas…

Anyway, just read we’re after a Wolves player now….. who else will they throw into the hat!! Rivaldo!!! BTW Vas, I follow the yellow side of Athens…..

]]> By: vassilis, athens, greece http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38063 vassilis, athens, greece Tue, 20 May 2008 11:43:35 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38063 Hitting at your fellow Greek-speaking mate huh Yiannaki? :) Well dont forget his very first transfer signing was Paul Smith (need I say more? Far better than Giorgallidis last night lol), whereas Cohen was one of the most hardworking players this year. Lockwood and Davies were both troubled by injuries, but I believe Arron hasn't said his final word yet. He's a terrific player who on his day can devastate opposing defences, and we know that well dont we? And you forgot to mention Mr Dependable Kelvin Wilson now havent you? Hehehe, just pulling your leg my dear koumbare. Really hope we meet one day, either dame in Athens or chame in Cyprus (or in Nottingham..?) Hitting at your fellow Greek-speaking mate huh Yiannaki? :) Well dont forget his very first transfer signing was Paul Smith (need I say more? Far better than Giorgallidis last night lol), whereas Cohen was one of the most hardworking players this year. Lockwood and Davies were both troubled by injuries, but I believe Arron hasn’t said his final word yet. He’s a terrific player who on his day can devastate opposing defences, and we know that well dont we? And you forgot to mention Mr Dependable Kelvin Wilson now havent you?
Hehehe, just pulling your leg my dear koumbare. Really hope we meet one day, either dame in Athens or chame in Cyprus (or in Nottingham..?)

]]> By: Yiannaki - Celebrating promotion all summer http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38062 Yiannaki - Celebrating promotion all summer Tue, 20 May 2008 08:56:28 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38062 e) Money doesn't always = better work circle .... e) Money doesn’t always = better work circle ….

]]> By: Yiannaki - Celebrating promotion all summer http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38061 Yiannaki - Celebrating promotion all summer Tue, 20 May 2008 08:48:21 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38061 a)Commons off 2 Derby, please sto pulling our legs!!. Derby can't offer him 20k a week after coming out of the Prem with the worst history EVER!! and joint worst wins ever in a top flight league season. So please, if he does by some amazing twist of fate go to the Sheep he might as well leave Nottingham. b) CC good signings - mmm, who? Lennon who got lost as soon as he lost his place lumped off 2 Wycombe? Lockwood who played a dozen games? The Yeovil duo who somehow delayed their start to the seasons. I don't know what some people call a good signng. For me though, the first 2 definatly are not. c) As MICKF points out, should he leave - we lose out wherever he goes. As he's a free agent he can talk to anybody & everybody but I still expect Commons to show he's a man of his words and stay with us. d) Andy Cole - y r the press linking hm with us considering our supposed standards? a)Commons off 2 Derby, please sto pulling our legs!!. Derby can’t offer him 20k a week after coming out of the Prem with the worst history EVER!! and joint worst wins ever in a top flight league season. So please, if he does by some amazing twist of fate go to the Sheep he might as well leave Nottingham.

b) CC good signings - mmm, who? Lennon who got lost as soon as he lost his place lumped off 2 Wycombe? Lockwood who played a dozen games? The Yeovil duo who somehow delayed their start to the seasons. I don’t know what some people call a good signng. For me though, the first 2 definatly are not.

c) As MICKF points out, should he leave - we lose out wherever he goes. As he’s a free agent he can talk to anybody & everybody but I still expect Commons to show he’s a man of his words and stay with us.

d) Andy Cole - y r the press linking hm with us considering our supposed standards?

]]> By: mattyboy http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38060 mattyboy Tue, 20 May 2008 07:26:09 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38060 I'll be gutted if Commo leaves, wherever he may go. Played in the correct position, with half a yard of grass in front of him he can be devastating. And in the Championship he should get more time on the ball. I sit close to pitchside so get a good view of players reactions/body language at corners and throw-ins. In my opinion the guy was desparate to do well for his team last season. And did you see the way he celebrated after the Yeovil game? As a Forest fan brought up watching teams generally playing skilfull passing football, on the ground, not arguing with refs etc, Commo fits the bill. And if the odd pass goes astray, well those of you that want to moan and groan naff off and queue up for a Man U season ticket, where mistakes are never made. Our problems last season revolved around Calderwood playing our best players out of their best positions, thus costing points. But as we've all been saying, we have a very good side. and if he plays the likes of Tyson, Davies, Cohen and Commons in their comfort zones I reckon we'll be fine. I’ll be gutted if Commo leaves, wherever he may go. Played in the correct position, with half a yard of grass in front of him he can be devastating. And in the Championship he should get more time on the ball.
I sit close to pitchside so get a good view of players reactions/body language at corners and throw-ins. In my opinion the guy was desparate to do well for his team last season. And did you see the way he celebrated after the Yeovil game?
As a Forest fan brought up watching teams generally playing skilfull passing football, on the ground, not arguing with refs etc, Commo fits the bill. And if the odd pass goes astray, well those of you that want to moan and groan naff off and queue up for a Man U season ticket, where mistakes are never made.
Our problems last season revolved around Calderwood playing our best players out of their best positions, thus costing points. But as we’ve all been saying, we have a very good side. and if he plays the likes of Tyson, Davies, Cohen and Commons in their comfort zones I reckon we’ll be fine.

]]> By: Jonathan http://nffcblog.com/2008/05/19/commons-in-talks-with-derby/#comment-38059 Jonathan Tue, 20 May 2008 06:56:44 +0000 http://nffc.wordpress.com/?p=852#comment-38059 I think people need to be patient with Commons. If Forest have only just started negotiations, which is likely due the situation we were in, then negotiations won't be half way through yet. These things aren't like Championship Manager, taking 3 days to sort! His agent is listening to all interested parties and rightly so. If we offer him £9k per week, and Derby offer him £20k, then he'll go because ultimately he has to make enough money from his career to last him the rest of his life. I would work for a company I didn't like if they paid me enough to make it worth my while - I'm sure we're all the same. Personally I think Commons will re-sign and stay for a few years. He will leave however if he can get double his wages elsewhere, and that is fair enough. As for him blowing hot and cold, give the guy a break. He is our most creative player. If he was brilliant all of the time he'd not be playing for us. The thing that narks me is that when he tries stuff and it comes off, we love him. When he tries stuff and it doesn't, he's crap. Forest fans can never seem to appreciate that players try to be creative but that not all of their attempts come off. I've seen Commons have a shocking game, but never stop trying to create for his teammates. That is all we can ask - effort and the bravery to try things and not go for the safe option every time, even when its not working for you. I think people need to be patient with Commons. If Forest have only just started negotiations, which is likely due the situation we were in, then negotiations won’t be half way through yet. These things aren’t like Championship Manager, taking 3 days to sort!

His agent is listening to all interested parties and rightly so. If we offer him £9k per week, and Derby offer him £20k, then he’ll go because ultimately he has to make enough money from his career to last him the rest of his life. I would work for a company I didn’t like if they paid me enough to make it worth my while - I’m sure we’re all the same.

Personally I think Commons will re-sign and stay for a few years. He will leave however if he can get double his wages elsewhere, and that is fair enough.

As for him blowing hot and cold, give the guy a break. He is our most creative player. If he was brilliant all of the time he’d not be playing for us. The thing that narks me is that when he tries stuff and it comes off, we love him. When he tries stuff and it doesn’t, he’s crap. Forest fans can never seem to appreciate that players try to be creative but that not all of their attempts come off. I’ve seen Commons have a shocking game, but never stop trying to create for his teammates. That is all we can ask - effort and the bravery to try things and not go for the safe option every time, even when its not working for you.

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