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	<title>Comments on: Leeds for relegation?</title>
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		<title>By: Yiannaki - In the Sun</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-38824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yiannaki - In the Sun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll read the rest of these comments later - just want to wish Leeds fans (not including Bates) all the best in joining us in the Championship and heres hoping for another sucssesful relegation for our Neighbours the Rams!! :lol: McAlister I&#039;m sure will take you up this season. The Trickies are split over CC &amp; no-one can say else wise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll read the rest of these comments later &#8211; just want to wish Leeds fans (not including Bates) all the best in joining us in the Championship and heres hoping for another sucssesful relegation for our Neighbours the Rams!! <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  McAlister I&#8217;m sure will take you up this season. The Trickies are split over CC &amp; no-one can say else wise.</p>
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		<title>By: nffc</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22172</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t particularly wish you luck, I admire your achievements so far this season though - despite not &#039;hating&#039; Leeds I&#039;m not about to start pretending to like them very much either!

I had information including a list of clubs who didn&#039;t vote against Leeds, we were amongst them, as were many of your fellow Yorkshire clubs - I don&#039;t know whether it is factual or not, just like you don&#039;t know that it isn&#039;t - yet it seems okay for you to state as fact that our chairman along with EVERY other one hates Leeds, fact is, some voted in your favour - I believe ours was one, but as I said before, I can&#039;t prove it.

Your original quote is dredged from months ago, and is selective at best - I still believe that as an organisation it was right to punish Leeds - I have always, including in the original article, acknowledged that from a fans perspective this whole situation is very harsh.

But anyway, it seems mighty churlish to be squabbling over words that are months old - did you dredge out the match report from your visit to the City Ground?  Maybe you could find one or two words in there you&#039;d find less displeasing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t particularly wish you luck, I admire your achievements so far this season though &#8211; despite not &#8216;hating&#8217; Leeds I&#8217;m not about to start pretending to like them very much either!</p>
<p>I had information including a list of clubs who didn&#8217;t vote against Leeds, we were amongst them, as were many of your fellow Yorkshire clubs &#8211; I don&#8217;t know whether it is factual or not, just like you don&#8217;t know that it isn&#8217;t &#8211; yet it seems okay for you to state as fact that our chairman along with EVERY other one hates Leeds, fact is, some voted in your favour &#8211; I believe ours was one, but as I said before, I can&#8217;t prove it.</p>
<p>Your original quote is dredged from months ago, and is selective at best &#8211; I still believe that as an organisation it was right to punish Leeds &#8211; I have always, including in the original article, acknowledged that from a fans perspective this whole situation is very harsh.</p>
<p>But anyway, it seems mighty churlish to be squabbling over words that are months old &#8211; did you dredge out the match report from your visit to the City Ground?  Maybe you could find one or two words in there you&#8217;d find less displeasing?</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Billy</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghost of Billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quote  &quot;They are appealing (the decision - of course they’re not appealing in the other sense!), but I hope the Football League stand firm&quot;

Surely not the comments from a person who is now wishing us the best of luck!!!

And you know that your chairman didn&#039;t vote against us, how exactly?

Point taken about my actions to avoid further patronising comments!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote  &#8220;They are appealing (the decision &#8211; of course they’re not appealing in the other sense!), but I hope the Football League stand firm&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely not the comments from a person who is now wishing us the best of luck!!!</p>
<p>And you know that your chairman didn&#8217;t vote against us, how exactly?</p>
<p>Point taken about my actions to avoid further patronising comments!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nffc</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nffc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d concede original comments were partially ill-informed, and perhaps even a hint of gloating in there too - but if you&#039;re desperate to be hated by everyone, I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ve not quite achieved it in my case - indeed, the comments between myself and other Leeds fans made me reappraise quite a lot of my original stance - the subsequent form that Leeds have shown has been remarkable.

As I said before, I believe our chairman didn&#039;t actually vote against your appeal - so you can&#039;t even level that at us.

And if you don&#039;t want to listen to what you perceive as patronising comments, then I suppose there&#039;s one obvious way of achieving that!...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d concede original comments were partially ill-informed, and perhaps even a hint of gloating in there too &#8211; but if you&#8217;re desperate to be hated by everyone, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ve not quite achieved it in my case &#8211; indeed, the comments between myself and other Leeds fans made me reappraise quite a lot of my original stance &#8211; the subsequent form that Leeds have shown has been remarkable.</p>
<p>As I said before, I believe our chairman didn&#8217;t actually vote against your appeal &#8211; so you can&#8217;t even level that at us.</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t want to listen to what you perceive as patronising comments, then I suppose there&#8217;s one obvious way of achieving that!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Billy</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghost of Billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely not Mattyboy, I have been going to Leeds since I was a young lad and have been a season ticket holder at Elland for over twenty five years and my 14 year old son has held his season ticket for the last 8 years.

I have personally wrote letters to Mr Bates thanking him for saving my football club, coz although he is a bit of a dodgy geezer, he did step into the breach when no one else wanted to come within a country mile of us.  Of course I was upset when we were relegated AGAIN, but it is Ridsdale and O&#039;Leary who are the villains in this sad story, not Venables, not Reid, Not Blackwell and not Wise.  I do realise that Mr Bates has not taken on Leeds for love of the club, but he was the one who took the chance.

NFFC, I have indeed read your subsequent back tracking comments, but your original remarks were of a gloating and ill informed nature, and it is these comments that I was ridiculing.

I don&#039;t want to listen to fans of other clubs patronising us and telling us how well we are doing, the rest of the league showed their colours when they voted against us at our appeal, this is Leeds UNITED against the world, just the way we like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely not Mattyboy, I have been going to Leeds since I was a young lad and have been a season ticket holder at Elland for over twenty five years and my 14 year old son has held his season ticket for the last 8 years.</p>
<p>I have personally wrote letters to Mr Bates thanking him for saving my football club, coz although he is a bit of a dodgy geezer, he did step into the breach when no one else wanted to come within a country mile of us.  Of course I was upset when we were relegated AGAIN, but it is Ridsdale and O&#8217;Leary who are the villains in this sad story, not Venables, not Reid, Not Blackwell and not Wise.  I do realise that Mr Bates has not taken on Leeds for love of the club, but he was the one who took the chance.</p>
<p>NFFC, I have indeed read your subsequent back tracking comments, but your original remarks were of a gloating and ill informed nature, and it is these comments that I was ridiculing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to listen to fans of other clubs patronising us and telling us how well we are doing, the rest of the league showed their colours when they voted against us at our appeal, this is Leeds UNITED against the world, just the way we like it.</p>
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		<title>By: mattyboy</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely nffc, you have to admire what Leeds have achieved so far this season.
But I do wonder if ghost of billy was one of the thousands of fans who deserted their beloved team last season, calling for the managers head?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely nffc, you have to admire what Leeds have achieved so far this season.<br />
But I do wonder if ghost of billy was one of the thousands of fans who deserted their beloved team last season, calling for the managers head?</p>
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		<title>By: nffc</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22143</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nffc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve not really read my subsequent comments really, have you?  I&#039;m choking on nothing at all.

Also, not every chairman voted against Leeds - and whilst it&#039;s impossible to prove, information I have seen suggests ours wasn&#039;t one of those who sanctioned the deduction.

I don&#039;t suppose you&#039;re choking on your words either - personally I can only applaud the form Leeds have shown to overcome the deficit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve not really read my subsequent comments really, have you?  I&#8217;m choking on nothing at all.</p>
<p>Also, not every chairman voted against Leeds &#8211; and whilst it&#8217;s impossible to prove, information I have seen suggests ours wasn&#8217;t one of those who sanctioned the deduction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t suppose you&#8217;re choking on your words either &#8211; personally I can only applaud the form Leeds have shown to overcome the deficit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost of Billy</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-22138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ghost of Billy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NFFC - Justice is being served, I bet you&#039;re choking on your words aren&#039;t you......minus 15 points and still only 3 points outside the play-offs, they should have made it minus 25 points and made it interesting!  

This punishment was a travesty, how can a punishment  dealt out by the people who have most to benefit, be seen to be fair???

Thanks to your chairman and the other league chairmen, you have now set a precedence, and I pity any other team that finds itself in the same predicament.

The record books will show that Leeds won the League One title in 2008 despite Mr Mawhinney&#039;s best efforts.

I actually enjoy being hated by the other league clubs coz it unites us and we seem to succeed when it happens.  Look at the late 60&#039;s and early 70&#039;s when everyone hated Leeds, we were winning trophies left, right and centre.  But when we were doing well in the Champions League and reached the semi&#039;s, everyone was backing us and we became a lot of peoples &quot;next favourite&quot; team, and then look what happened!!!!!

Let&#039;s shut up shop at fortress Elland Road and fuck &#039;em all.

As for Bates.........he&#039;ll do for me!!!  The most hated chairman in charge of the most hated team in the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NFFC &#8211; Justice is being served, I bet you&#8217;re choking on your words aren&#8217;t you&#8230;&#8230;minus 15 points and still only 3 points outside the play-offs, they should have made it minus 25 points and made it interesting!  </p>
<p>This punishment was a travesty, how can a punishment  dealt out by the people who have most to benefit, be seen to be fair???</p>
<p>Thanks to your chairman and the other league chairmen, you have now set a precedence, and I pity any other team that finds itself in the same predicament.</p>
<p>The record books will show that Leeds won the League One title in 2008 despite Mr Mawhinney&#8217;s best efforts.</p>
<p>I actually enjoy being hated by the other league clubs coz it unites us and we seem to succeed when it happens.  Look at the late 60&#8242;s and early 70&#8242;s when everyone hated Leeds, we were winning trophies left, right and centre.  But when we were doing well in the Champions League and reached the semi&#8217;s, everyone was backing us and we became a lot of peoples &#8220;next favourite&#8221; team, and then look what happened!!!!!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s shut up shop at fortress Elland Road and fuck &#8216;em all.</p>
<p>As for Bates&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;he&#8217;ll do for me!!!  The most hated chairman in charge of the most hated team in the league.</p>
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		<title>By: nffc</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-21774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nffc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still singing!  But Leeds&#039; start has been pretty damn impressive... Beckford and Kandol being suspended will be interesting though, although I guess it&#039;s only a game a piece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still singing!  But Leeds&#8217; start has been pretty damn impressive&#8230; Beckford and Kandol being suspended will be interesting though, although I guess it&#8217;s only a game a piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke A</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/08/03/leeds-for-relegation/#comment-21769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re not singing anymore!
Leeds Leeds Leeds]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not singing anymore!<br />
Leeds Leeds Leeds</p>
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