Comments on: Did Brecks and Smoulds swear at fans?

By: latenightpsycho

latenightpsycho — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:53:04 +0000

Come now Richard, don’t throw all your toys out!

By: mattyboy

mattyboy — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:40:16 +0000

Shame prutts isnt a forest player, he and jack were class acts on tuesday. He would be my pick for captain now we dont have cullip. When cullip came back into the side it was him who did all the encouraging, all the shouting, and all the organising. No good relying on smith, great shotstopper but not commanding enough. So, no cullip and a captain who apparently slags off the fans on the way down the tunnel. Fine, show him your authority colin: drop him, play chambers and teach him a lesson. Mind you, the way he’s been performing he probably wouldnt mind. Personally, i think cc will play sammy and commons on saturday and we will win comfortably. Still, been saying that since christmas!

By: beestonred

beestonred — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:16:37 +0000

sorry Richard
it was a ‘ morning after the night before’ comment as i am getting increasingly angry at the innabilty of this club to appoint a manager who will turn out a side that we can appreciate, even if we are not promotion candidates. Not personal mate, keep writing.

By: Kieran

Kieran — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:52:16 +0000

I’ve had reservations about Breckin’s role as captain for some time. Whilst I agree with an earlier comment that his goals were crutial last year, you have to wonder where he was when the players were rebelling against Megson. As captain he should be imploring his team to play for him, for the manager and for the club, however I would not be suprised if it was behind it all.
Secondly, he embodies the kind of arrogant and nochelant attitude we seem to have had on the pitch this season. This may be just me, but I would have far perferred Danny Cullip as captain over Breckin. As for future captains, whilst big Wes would be a favourite, and remember he was given the armband against Derby a couple of seasons back, he doesnt strike me as a natural leader.
Its all a mute point anyway, cause to change captaincy mid-season would just be plain stupid.
Still, reports of players and managers swearing at their own supporters smacks of the kind of thing a club on the brink of relegation would experience, not one pushing for promotion.

By: Congo_Red

Congo_Red — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:54:57 +0000

Just a few things to point out…

If I were Calderwood, particualrly taking into account that the comments about our players being unable to keep or pass the ball succesfully for any period of time, I’d be inclined to think defensively as well. If we have players who are incapable of finding each other with the ball, how exactly are we supposed to play a passing game???

Paul Hart resigned, he was not sacked. Also, he did not have the support of the fans, he was basically hounded out of the club after much criticism about his inability to change formation (Funny that much criticism is now aimed at Calderwood for not sticking with a formation isn’t it?)

By: nffc

nffc — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 18:36:05 +0000

Don’t be daft Richard – I welcome comments from anybody.

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:39:07 +0000

I guess you’re right. I don’t have any authority to comment. I will shut up in future.

Sorry folks.

By: WorksopRed

WorksopRed — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:56:39 +0000

Replacing the captain really isn’t going to change things, but you’re maybe a bit harsh in dismissing Wes. He’s 23 and been at Forest from a trainee since 2002, he’s had around 150 first team appearances and of course, he’s a local lad. I don’t think his experience is an issue, whether he’d command the respect of other players and have enough presence on the pitch is another matter I suppose.

By: Barrow Red

Barrow Red — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:49:50 +0000

As someone who actually saw Breckin shout ‘fuck off’ at the Trent End as he walked straight down the tunnel at the end of the game (note no running over to the supporters clapping a la Prutton) I must admit to being more than a little surprised.

By the time he left the pitch there was no booing, no gesturing at the players etc, just a lot of miserable people trying to get out of the City Ground as quickly as possible after watching what was quite possibly the most inept performance at home this season. And yes, I do include the Scunthorpe and Orient games in thinking this.

Forest are too negative, too boring and totally unable to keep the football for any period of time. This has been the case all season, even when we were scraping wins and riding our luck before Christmas.

As a supporter who does not boo players I don’t like to hear fans get on the back of individuals during a game. However when we are playing football with no style, no skill and no creativity, how is a supporter meant to put across there displeasure to players, the manager or indeed the Chairman (for it is he who continues to appoint long ball, negative managers.)

Until this football club returns to playing football in the right way (as Blackpool did so well last night) then there will be an undercurrent on displeasure on Trentside. We will tolerate it if results are okay but as soon as results go bad then patience will run out very quickly. Megson, Bassett & Kinnear can all confirm this. Compare their demise to Harty’s where the club could not score for weeks on end but even when he was eventually sacked, he still had the support of most of the supporters.

With the attacking options available, we should be doing so much more than we showed last night. And the blame for that has to lie with the Manager.

By: vassilis, athens, greece

vassilis, athens, greece — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:58:43 +0000

Thanks Richard for the assist you’ve given me, I’m too far away myself and just thought I shouldn’t comment since the people who really know what is happening go to the CG and abuse their own team.
Well people, either you like it or not, players and managers are human and are not supposed to get any abuse just because they may be better paid than yourselves. Who is going to lose if Forest isn’t promoted? Do you see these players going any place where they’d be better off financially? Do you actually think they don’t want to get promoted? What would you say now if we hadn’t allowed those two last-gasp goals? We’d be comfortably 2nd 3 pts behind Scunny and you’d roar with enthusiasm that we could beat them at home and get on top.
Yes, Forest are not playing well lately, we all know that, even Richard and I from so far away. But have any of you ever experienced the pressure of running for champion? I am sure that with exactly the same team in the Championship we’d do much better, just because we’d not be supposed to walk over any team in the league. I am still confident that we will get promoted, I don’t care if it’s through the playoffs or anything. Any of you remember the 1976-’77 Forest, who won promotion on the last day finishing third because of another club’s bad result? The manager back then was a certain Mr Brian Clough (RIP although I doubt it!), and we all know what happened next…
As far as Brecks is concerned, some people seem to forget that without this guy’s goals last season (when our strikers couldn’t hit a cow in a telephone booth) we could even be playing in League 2 (and have more reasons to moan about!). He was our Player of the Year for heavens sake. NFFC is right, who would you give the armband to? Let Prutton sign a permanent deal, Commons lose some weight and be totally fit again, or Lester get rid of his stupid habit of picking up cards, then we can talk… I think that given the mentality of most players we’d stick with Chambers…
Anyway I think that first, even if Brecks responded to the abuse (which is not the right thing to do but I’d understand it) it’s not enough to make us forget what he’s done for the club in a season as difficult as the last one. Then, I think we have more serious things to take care of now than to question our captaincy!!!
Sorry for talking too much for someone so far away…