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	<title>Comments on: Forest fans set to be a laughing stock.. again!</title>
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	<description>The mindless ramblings of a Forest fan half imbued with a probably misguided sense of optimism..</description>
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		<title>By: John Michael White</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/02/02/forest-fans-set-to-be-a-laughing-stock-again/#comment-3154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Michael White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 03:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have faith that the club will rise if it&#039;s allowed to punch its weight.

If it can punch its weight there isn&#039;t a club in this division that can live with us.

If it can punch its weight in the Championship we will be there or there abouts, and the first season we get the rub of the green we&#039;ll be up again.

If we can punch our weight in the Premier we can compete with all but four or five of the clubs in there at the moment.

This club is where it is because, for a long time, it was forced to spend well short of its means. It was forced to punch well below its weight. It was in that position, primarily, because of the systematic mismanagement of Wray/Scholer, and yes because Doughty shot for the moon a little to soon when first involved.

Doughty has learnt from that mistake, he understands that ensuring that the club is on an even financial keel is all that matters when it comes to our long-term success. He&#039;s put us, at great personal expense, at a cost of a lot of his time, in that position. Now his only job is to ensure we get the manager in place who can take us forward. Perhaps he&#039;s got it right this time, perhaps he hasn&#039;t. Only time will tell.

But let&#039;s not pretend that picking a manager who is a cast iron certainty to lead us back to the promised land is a job we could do either.

Let&#039;s do the only thing we can as fans. Let&#039;s get behind the team 100% while we have the chance. Let&#039;s try and play our part in ensuring that this summer is one to celebrate.

We back the club with time and money that I&#039;m sure we all have to hard earn. Let&#039;s have respect for Doughty&#039;s time and money, which he&#039;s had to work just as hard to earn, but is on a scale most of us couldn&#039;t contemplate. The last 8 years haven&#039;t been the best, but compared to where we&#039;d be if we&#039;d have gone bust it&#039;s a dream. We&#039;d be where AFC Wimbledon are.

Calderwood deserves at least a couple of years. If he&#039;s is the right man then all well and good. If he&#039;s not then the next chap will have a pop at it. There are no short cuts, no easy solutions, that&#039;s just the way things are. We need the right manager, the right support from us, and the right Chairman who will allow the club to punch its weight. There is no certainly in what a manager with a good track record will do at a club, all you can do is get the best candidate in place and hope for the best.

Doughty is doing his bit, let&#039;s do our bit so we Calderwood the best chance to do his.

That is what we all want isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have faith that the club will rise if it&#8217;s allowed to punch its weight.</p>
<p>If it can punch its weight there isn&#8217;t a club in this division that can live with us.</p>
<p>If it can punch its weight in the Championship we will be there or there abouts, and the first season we get the rub of the green we&#8217;ll be up again.</p>
<p>If we can punch our weight in the Premier we can compete with all but four or five of the clubs in there at the moment.</p>
<p>This club is where it is because, for a long time, it was forced to spend well short of its means. It was forced to punch well below its weight. It was in that position, primarily, because of the systematic mismanagement of Wray/Scholer, and yes because Doughty shot for the moon a little to soon when first involved.</p>
<p>Doughty has learnt from that mistake, he understands that ensuring that the club is on an even financial keel is all that matters when it comes to our long-term success. He&#8217;s put us, at great personal expense, at a cost of a lot of his time, in that position. Now his only job is to ensure we get the manager in place who can take us forward. Perhaps he&#8217;s got it right this time, perhaps he hasn&#8217;t. Only time will tell.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not pretend that picking a manager who is a cast iron certainty to lead us back to the promised land is a job we could do either.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do the only thing we can as fans. Let&#8217;s get behind the team 100% while we have the chance. Let&#8217;s try and play our part in ensuring that this summer is one to celebrate.</p>
<p>We back the club with time and money that I&#8217;m sure we all have to hard earn. Let&#8217;s have respect for Doughty&#8217;s time and money, which he&#8217;s had to work just as hard to earn, but is on a scale most of us couldn&#8217;t contemplate. The last 8 years haven&#8217;t been the best, but compared to where we&#8217;d be if we&#8217;d have gone bust it&#8217;s a dream. We&#8217;d be where AFC Wimbledon are.</p>
<p>Calderwood deserves at least a couple of years. If he&#8217;s is the right man then all well and good. If he&#8217;s not then the next chap will have a pop at it. There are no short cuts, no easy solutions, that&#8217;s just the way things are. We need the right manager, the right support from us, and the right Chairman who will allow the club to punch its weight. There is no certainly in what a manager with a good track record will do at a club, all you can do is get the best candidate in place and hope for the best.</p>
<p>Doughty is doing his bit, let&#8217;s do our bit so we Calderwood the best chance to do his.</p>
<p>That is what we all want isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: dane b</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/02/02/forest-fans-set-to-be-a-laughing-stock-again/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dane b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 22:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very little action in the transfer window. Calderwood not getting the players he wanted because in the words of Mark Arthur, &quot;The club will not be held to ransom&quot;. In other words, what he meant to say was, &quot;We put the ST and admission prices to maintain and build the squad, but now we have their money, the fans can go to f**k.&quot;

Another defeat. This time at the hands of the all conquering Brighton. 3 wins in the last 13 league games is a disaster. I cannot believe that some people on this forum are still  supporting the Chuckle Brothers, Mark Arthur and Nigel Doughty. You must be very very short sighted indeed, or know very little about the club you profess to support.

Doughty Out, Arthur Out, and let&#039;s get investors in who have the vision to take this club forward. Doughty is too much of a business man to run a football club. Running a football club is not about making a profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very little action in the transfer window. Calderwood not getting the players he wanted because in the words of Mark Arthur, &#8220;The club will not be held to ransom&#8221;. In other words, what he meant to say was, &#8220;We put the ST and admission prices to maintain and build the squad, but now we have their money, the fans can go to f**k.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another defeat. This time at the hands of the all conquering Brighton. 3 wins in the last 13 league games is a disaster. I cannot believe that some people on this forum are still  supporting the Chuckle Brothers, Mark Arthur and Nigel Doughty. You must be very very short sighted indeed, or know very little about the club you profess to support.</p>
<p>Doughty Out, Arthur Out, and let&#8217;s get investors in who have the vision to take this club forward. Doughty is too much of a business man to run a football club. Running a football club is not about making a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: The Claw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Claw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JMW, why do you have any faith that we will rise under Nigel - Since he took a controlling interest in the club we have systematically fallen further and further down the leagues, losing ground on many sides we used to once be competitive with?

He has done absolutely nothing in the last 8 years to suggest he will be able to stop the drop. 

I like the man and appreciate that he is the best in the world in his professional field, but that does not include football clubs as businessmen have found out before.

I believe we need fresh blood, any blood, to re-invigorate things at the club - The Board of Doughty, Pelling &amp; Arthur is so stale and lifeless, and this reflects our club on the pitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JMW, why do you have any faith that we will rise under Nigel &#8211; Since he took a controlling interest in the club we have systematically fallen further and further down the leagues, losing ground on many sides we used to once be competitive with?</p>
<p>He has done absolutely nothing in the last 8 years to suggest he will be able to stop the drop. </p>
<p>I like the man and appreciate that he is the best in the world in his professional field, but that does not include football clubs as businessmen have found out before.</p>
<p>I believe we need fresh blood, any blood, to re-invigorate things at the club &#8211; The Board of Doughty, Pelling &amp; Arthur is so stale and lifeless, and this reflects our club on the pitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Bevchenko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bevchenko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another shambles today...sure you don&#039;t want us to set up the website?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another shambles today&#8230;sure you don&#8217;t want us to set up the website?</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
		<link>http://nffcblog.com/2007/02/02/forest-fans-set-to-be-a-laughing-stock-again/#comment-3100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 points Saturday.

We&#039;ve ot to keep our noses to the finishing tape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 points Saturday.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve ot to keep our noses to the finishing tape.</p>
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		<title>By: mattyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers freddie, thats why she&#039;s always smiling!
Look, i dont want to stay in this division, i want the glory days to return. Always dreamin&#039;. But my point is why do some fans go, and constantly moan? Hardly going to encourage the players, is it. You&#039;re right about the play-offs, but then as i&#039;ve said before, we should be pissing this league with the players we&#039;ve got.  
Still, with any luck sammy will be back in place of holt on saturday. Ah, feeling better already!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers freddie, thats why she&#8217;s always smiling!<br />
Look, i dont want to stay in this division, i want the glory days to return. Always dreamin&#8217;. But my point is why do some fans go, and constantly moan? Hardly going to encourage the players, is it. You&#8217;re right about the play-offs, but then as i&#8217;ve said before, we should be pissing this league with the players we&#8217;ve got.<br />
Still, with any luck sammy will be back in place of holt on saturday. Ah, feeling better already!!</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah well Matty, maybe you&#039;ll be happy to watch 3rd Division football for the forseeable future.

We shoudn&#039;t lower our expectations just so that we avoid being disappointed.

But if you&#039;re happy with whatever they churn out week in week out that&#039;s your choice, as it is mine to come and watch and cheer (and bite my nails).

I truly believe Forest fans hope and wish for success, not failure. No petty grudges here, just facts. And come the end of the season, position one or two in the league will be wonderful. Anything in the play-offs would be a gamble in my opinion because we can win, lose or draw to any team in this league on a given day, as we&#039;ve shown.

By the way Matty, I&#039;m looking after your wife every other Saturday...  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah well Matty, maybe you&#8217;ll be happy to watch 3rd Division football for the forseeable future.</p>
<p>We shoudn&#8217;t lower our expectations just so that we avoid being disappointed.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re happy with whatever they churn out week in week out that&#8217;s your choice, as it is mine to come and watch and cheer (and bite my nails).</p>
<p>I truly believe Forest fans hope and wish for success, not failure. No petty grudges here, just facts. And come the end of the season, position one or two in the league will be wonderful. Anything in the play-offs would be a gamble in my opinion because we can win, lose or draw to any team in this league on a given day, as we&#8217;ve shown.</p>
<p>By the way Matty, I&#8217;m looking after your wife every other Saturday&#8230;  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mattyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mattyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its hard being a football fan, isnt it? Always something to moan about.
Tell you what, all those who keep slagging off ND (especially those on the &#039;official&#039; site) and whining about the state of the club/team/manager/position in the league why dont they just f**k right off and go shopping on a saturday. Stop coming to forest if its so shit. I&#039;m sick of all the moaning. 
ND is a forest fan and a businessman. He came in and invested. Maybe he made mistakes, we all do. But christ almighty get off his back and put as much energy into supporting the team as you do moaning about the boss.
Surely, when you hand over the hard earned for the season ticket you do so in the anticipation that you&#039;re gonna have a bit of fun for your money? Until xmas we had done and were top. Few bad performances later and its the end of the world! Im convinced we&#039;ll go up, and the party will be top! However, all those fans out there who no doubt will grumble from now til then that we wont last a season in the championship without new players etc etc etc dont bother coming. Either support whichever players are wearing that red shirt or why bother coming.
Look, maybe i go on a bit, but face facts...we are in div3 on merit. I hate the fact that the team i love is a bit of a standing joke right now, and come next season no doubt half the team will move on. But thats life, and for 90 minutes once a fortnight i want to forget about the wife and mortgage and cheer on the mighty reds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hard being a football fan, isnt it? Always something to moan about.<br />
Tell you what, all those who keep slagging off ND (especially those on the &#8216;official&#8217; site) and whining about the state of the club/team/manager/position in the league why dont they just f**k right off and go shopping on a saturday. Stop coming to forest if its so shit. I&#8217;m sick of all the moaning.<br />
ND is a forest fan and a businessman. He came in and invested. Maybe he made mistakes, we all do. But christ almighty get off his back and put as much energy into supporting the team as you do moaning about the boss.<br />
Surely, when you hand over the hard earned for the season ticket you do so in the anticipation that you&#8217;re gonna have a bit of fun for your money? Until xmas we had done and were top. Few bad performances later and its the end of the world! Im convinced we&#8217;ll go up, and the party will be top! However, all those fans out there who no doubt will grumble from now til then that we wont last a season in the championship without new players etc etc etc dont bother coming. Either support whichever players are wearing that red shirt or why bother coming.<br />
Look, maybe i go on a bit, but face facts&#8230;we are in div3 on merit. I hate the fact that the team i love is a bit of a standing joke right now, and come next season no doubt half the team will move on. But thats life, and for 90 minutes once a fortnight i want to forget about the wife and mortgage and cheer on the mighty reds.</p>
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		<title>By: nffc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nffc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think only a fool would suggest anything other than promotion is a failure, however - with the team still very much in the promotion mix, you would almost think that some sections of our support would actually prefer a failure to validate their petty grudges...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think only a fool would suggest anything other than promotion is a failure, however &#8211; with the team still very much in the promotion mix, you would almost think that some sections of our support would actually prefer a failure to validate their petty grudges&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 08:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bottom line is that if we don&#039;t get promoted this season, Calderwood&#039;s failed.

That mean&#039;s Doughty&#039;s appointment was wrong.

Like someone said before, even without looking to the past, we have the resources and staff to get promotion. If we donlt manage it, it&#039;s down to them. You can&#039;t look at other clubs, such as those giants of Scunny and Blackpool - they can only look at themselves.

But then again, the players will hjust leave for some other well-paid job if they fail here, as will the manager, so nothing to lose really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line is that if we don&#8217;t get promoted this season, Calderwood&#8217;s failed.</p>
<p>That mean&#8217;s Doughty&#8217;s appointment was wrong.</p>
<p>Like someone said before, even without looking to the past, we have the resources and staff to get promotion. If we donlt manage it, it&#8217;s down to them. You can&#8217;t look at other clubs, such as those giants of Scunny and Blackpool &#8211; they can only look at themselves.</p>
<p>But then again, the players will hjust leave for some other well-paid job if they fail here, as will the manager, so nothing to lose really.</p>
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